need help iding coin

[pigeonman]

here's one i found last year but can't find it anywhere.i see the crown with a round design under it,any help.back is smooth.thanks

 

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[pigeonman]

sorry here's a pic

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

its him!

 

[Montana Jim]

I see a basic design, crown, shield, wreath - but nothing else "coinish".

Any chance it is an old button?

Here's what I see...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Sorry about the joke, I couldnt resist posting the Burger King guy. Kinda looks like him. Could you tell us what material or metal this is?

 

[pigeonman]

its copper i believe

 

[CRUSADER]

Its a Scottish Bawbee. These are early 1600s - mid 1600s from the top of my head. I will look up now. Reign of Charles I-Charles II.

 

[CRUSADER]

http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/images/scotchas.jpg

Above is a link to:

Scotland, Charles I , 1642; two pence (aka Turner or Bodle).
Thistle with inscription around
Crown with CR below and inscription around

Yours is similar not the exact ID but you get the idea.

Its an old find!!!!!

 

[CRUSADER]

We need an image of the reverse?

These coins with the crown above could be late 1600s, which is more likely for a US find.

Needs further research, but at least you know is an old Scottish coin. We have only ever found 3 similar copper dated Scottish coins!!

 

[done dug it all up]

Wow what an OLD coin! Incredible

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm thinking possibly W&M or William III (most likely 1690s)

http://www.predecimal.com/p12scottish.htm

Can't be any later than William III. Its either a later scottish copper sixpence (Bawbee) or most likely a Turner or Bodle (twopence).

 

[Iron Patch]

But you did spell it right.

 

[robfinds]

Hello pigeonman, these little Scottish coppers turn up frequently in Yorkshire, probably brought down with the Scottish cattle traders in the 17th century. They were for a while accepted in England. These two holed examples date to the time when this practice became illegal. They were holed probably to take them out of circulation. The rest of my examples are very worn, these coins must have had a long circulation. I can't remember if they date to Charles 1 or 2., they are certainly 17th century though, a great find from your side of the pond !.

HH - Robert.

 

[CRUSADER]

But you did spell it right.

First time I typed it, I spelt it wrong by 1 letter. Went back & edited it when I found the correct spelling, but left in my bracketted comment Now taken out the comment as well. Never was any good at English (my mother tongue)

 

[CRUSADER]

Hello pigeonman, these little Scottish coppers turn up frequently in Yorkshire, probably brought down with the Scottish cattle traders in the 17th century. They were for a while accepted in England. These two holed examples date to the time when this practice became illegal. They were holed probably to take them out of circulation. The rest of my examples are very worn, these coins must have had a long circulation. I can't remember if they date to Charles 1 or 2., they are certainly 17th century though, a great find from your side of the pond !.

HH - Robert.

These are the type I have, note they have no crown above the thistle, which I think came in late 17th century. Can't find much info on-line to pin it down. As you state, they often holed coins & tokens to cancel them, normally in the center with a square nail.

 

[PBK]

An example with the crown — William & Mary bawbee, 1692:

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[Don in SJ]

PBK, great positive ID from that photo! I checked the records of my buddy from Burlington County NJ who has over a thousand colonial era coins found and I saw no record of him getting any Scottish coins, so that is a rather rare find in our area, without a doubt. It undoubtly circulated along with the William III coppers which almost all are found identically worn, smooth for the most part on the reverse side with severe wear on the obverse side..........

Don

PS Cru gets a lot of credit for narrowing it down, he just could not produce the photo.

 

[CRUSADER]

PBK, great positive ID from that photo! I checked the records of my buddy from Burlington County NJ who has over a thousand colonial era coins found and I saw no record of him getting any Scottish coins, so that is a rather rare find in our area, without a doubt. It undoubtly circulated along with the William III coppers which almost all are found identically worn, smooth for the most part on the reverse side with severe wear on the obverse side..........

Don

PS Cru gets a lot of credit for narrowing it down, he just could not produce the photo.

sorry, problem is the photo's are in my brain. Never had to prove it with internet photos.

 

[Iron Patch]

I'm curious now, think I have found one of those but don't feel like sorting through coppers. I've been aware of them for quite a while but the one I possibly have is so worn and un-interestesting I'm not 100% sure it really exists.

 

[shaun7]

amazing i'd considering there was so little to go on