Need help Identifying buttons

[Texas Yankee]

Founds these buttons with my newly acquired Metal Detector and need help identifying these buttons. I have found numerous WWI and WWII buttons but this Navy button looks older. The second button is different and cool looking but have no idea what its from. Any help is greatly appreciated. The last to pictures appear to be some sort of badge or something with a (pat. 12.15.08.) My buddy found this one in New Mexico desert mining town. We can seem to identify it even with the marked patent number. If anyone can advise?

Thanks a million,
JFlo

 

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[nhbenz]

3rd thing is half of a two piece buckle, essentially similar to this (the number you mentioned is a date, rather than patent number) Wonderful ART NOUVEAU Brass Buckle with Raised FLORALS dated 1908 from premier-antiques on Ruby Lane
On the Navy? Button you may need to describe or show the back, as some fashion buttons copy the pattern very closely.

 

[Texas Yankee]

Thanks nhbenz! I'm sure my friend will be happy to know what it is...! As far as the Navy button, its the firsts Navy button out of a least 15 eagle buttons found in an old dump that dates from the early 20's - 1950's. The back is missing... As for the other button i have no idea what it is. I guess i will try and find the other piece to the buckle, the last time we were at that site i found two V nickels from 1905-1906.

 

[duggap]

On your first button, could you let us see the back please.

 

[Texas Yankee]

Here it is..!

 

[duggap]

I would say your button is civilian fashion button. They were popular on men's blazers, etc. The military ones would have had a brass back. Unless, of course, if the back is brass and just looks rusted on my monitor.

 

[Texas Yankee]

No that was the back of the second button

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

There were no military-issue US Navy COAT-SIZE ironback buttons, because the salty sea air would rust the iron back, making a rust-stain on the uniform's cloth. However, we know for certain that some KEPI-SIZE ironback US Navy (and US Army) buttons existed. It wouldn't matter if the button's back made a rust-stain on the kepi-hat's leather strap. Jflores2628 didn't give us a size measurement for his ironback Navy button, but the photo showing it in the palm of his hand indicates it is the kepi-size version. If that guess is correct, I think he's got an actual US Navy button instead of a civilian Fashion button.

Jflores, please carefully measure the diameter of your navy button, and tell us whether it is smaller or larger than 9/16th-inch.

 

[Texas Yankee]

Thanks cannonball, here's a better idea of the size...

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Thank you for the photo showing your navy-style button laying right next to a US dime's edge. Your button appears to be almost exactly 4/5ths of the .70"/17.9mm diameter of a dime -- which means it is the kepi-size (13mm-14mm)version of US Navy button... not a "Fashion" button. I should mention, in all my decades of closely examining metal buttons, I've never seen a "Fashion" civilian-usage imitation Navy button that's so very small.