Need a gun identification

[Mabe65]

I have an old long rifle and I can't figure out what kind it is or what it's purpose was in its life. Any help would be great.

 

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[lairmo]

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[XLV]

whats diameter of the bore .36 .45 .50 .54 .58 ? ...precussion rifles were made between 1836 to today........ but very popular up to 1870s then winchester center fire level actions tamed the west

 

[Mabe65]

whats diameter of the bore .36 .45 .50 .54 .58 ? ...precussion rifles were made between 1836 to today........ but very popular up to 1870s then winchester center fire level actions tamed the west

It appears to be .45

 

[Mabe65]

 

[creskol]

The shape of the stock and the trigger guard screams Kentucky Long Rifle to me.

 

[CaptEsteban]

Look very closely on the " side plate, " the oval piece behind the hammer. You can most likely some name there. Maybe a drop of oil on it will help to see it better.

 

[Mabe65]

It looks like it was modified. maybe a flintlock previously?

 

[creskol]

could have been .. the early KLR's were flintlocks.

 

[Mabe65]

I've looked everywhere to try and figure out the markings on it. The cross and what's left of the insignia on the stock.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I have an old long rifle and I can't figure out what kind it is or what it's purpose was in its life. Any help would be great.

Purpose? To fire a lead projectile.

Am I seeing that the barrel starts out octagonal but ends up being round at the muzzle? It appears to have been several things over it's lifetime.

 

[creskol]

Maybe it signifies the Southern Cross of Honor

 

[Mabe65]

Maybe it signifies the Southern Cross of Honor

The insignia on the stock is a gold eagle in a green circle

 

[CoinHunterAZ]

The original owner of that rifle was needing it for squirrels and such.

 

[releventchair]

Purpose? To fire a lead projectile.

Am I seeing that the barrel starts out octagonal but ends up being round at the muzzle? It appears to have been several things over it's lifetime.

It was a friend protector and provider like most probably..
Born somewhere East of the Mississippi , Pa. influence maybe , but after the better stock it starts to drift into a more utilitarian piece.

 

[CorgiDoom1881]

I wonder if it has a connection to Germany with the eagle and the cross that looks similar to the iron cross. It seems unlikely with the age of it, but maybe. I can't find anything else on the markings online.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

It's really hard to see the indoor images. Looks like a single sheet-metal thimble at the nose, no transition inlet pipe, "Tennessee" style abrupt shoulder where the rammer enters the stock, but very PA "Roman Nose" buttstock and cheekpiece. Also a PA style trigger bow that is not well matched to the sheet-metal thimble. The lock appears to be percussion from the get, go. But there is evidence the stock had another (longer) lock prior and may have been flint.

I'd say it's well used and a combination of available parts - but that could mean the parts are 1790 to 1825 and it is "original" to the latter date. The octagon-to-smooth barrel intrigues me if it is a .45 cal; and, if similar to the rest may have been smaller and bored out/refreshed a few times.

 

[DCMatt]

It appears to have been several things over it's lifetime.

Frankenmusket

 

[A2coins]

Many of those were reworked and make it harder to Id should be more markings o. the stock or side plat

 

[A2coins]

Welcome also. Tommy