Neat things about Thomas Jefferson....

Most whites didn't own slaves in the south. Only a few thousand made up the plantation elite, the census of 1850 shows that 1000 families at that time received $50,000,000.00 in yearly income, the other families, about 660,000 received about $60,000,000.00 a year or a median family income of $100.00.

Kinda like the way it is now. btw. that's the federal census of 1850 I'm referring to. Poor whites made about thirty cents a day, while slaves received 20 cents a day in board. At those rates I don't think anyone was stealing anyone.

What do you think, or is there somewhere else I should be looking?
 

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Most whites didn't own slaves in the south. Only a few thousand made up the plantation elite, the census of 1850 shows that 1000 families at that time received $50,000,000.00 in yearly income, the other families, about 660,000 received about $60,000,000.00 a year or a median family income of $100.00.

Kinda like the way it is now. btw. that's the federal census of 1850 I'm referring to. Poor whites made about thirty cents a day, while slaves received 20 cents a day in board. At those rates I don't think anyone was stealing anyone.

What do you think, or is there somewhere else I should be looking?

apologists for slavery love to change history...

I guess everything really boils down to communism being the saving grace of us all for you 2? Is that what you are trying to say?
 

Pip. Was responding to your silly acknowledgement of Davests post. Don't worry buddy. Take a naptime pill.
 

Called upon to undertake the duties of the first executive office of our country, I avail myself of the presence of that portion of my fellow citizens which is here assembled to express my grateful thanks for the favor with which they have been pleased to look toward me, to declare a sincere consciousness that the task is above my talents, and that I approach it with those anxious and awful presentiments which the greatness of the charge and the weakness of my powers so justly inspire. A rising nation, spread over a wide and fruitful land, traversing all the seas with the rich productions of their industry, engaged in commerce with nations who feel power and forget right, advancing rapidly to destinies beyond the reach of mortal eye, when I contemplate these transcendent objects, and see the honor, the happiness, and the hopes of this beloved country committed to the issue, and the auspices of this day, I shrink from the contemplation, and humble myself before the magnitude of the undertaking. Utterly, indeed, should I despair did not the presence of many whom I see here remind me that in the other high authorities provided by our Constitution I shall find resources of wisdom, of virtue, and of zeal on which to rely under all difficulties. To you, then, gentlemen, who are charged with the sovereign functions of legislation, and to those associate with you, I look with encouragement for that guidance and support which may enable us to steer with safety the vessel in which we are all embarked amidst the conflicting elements of a troubled world.

During the contest of opinion through which we have passed the animation of discussions and of exertions has sometimes worn an aspect which might impose on strangers unused to think freely and to speak and to write what they think; but this being now decided by the voice of the nation, announced according to the rules of the Constitution, all will of course arrange themselves under the will of the law, and unite in common efforts for the common good. All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possesses their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression. Let us, then, fellow citizens, unite with one heart and one mind. Let us restore to social intercourse that harmony and affection without which liberty and even life itself are but dreary things. And let us reflect that, having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled and suffered, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of as bitter and bloody persecutions. During the throes and convulsions of the ancient world, during the agonizing spasms of infuriated man, seeking through blood and slaughter his long lost liberty, it was not wonderful that the agitation of the billows should reach even this distant and peaceful shore; that this should be more felt and feared by some and less by others, and should divide opinions as to measures of safety. But every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all republicans, we are all federalists. If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve the Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. I know, indeed, that some honest men fear that a republican government can not be strong, that this Government is not strong enough; but would the honest patriot, in the full tide of successful experiment, abandon a government which has so far kept us free and firm on the theoretic and visionary fear that this Government, the world's best hope, may by possibility want energy to preserve itself? I trust not. I believe this, on the contrary, the strongest Government on earth. I believe it the only one where every man, at the call of the law, would fly to the standard of the law, and would meet invasions of the public order as his own personal concern. Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question.

Let us, then, with courage and confidence pursue our own Federal and Republican principles, our attachment to union and representative government. Kindly separated by nature and a wide ocean from the exterminating havoc of one quarter of the globe; too high-minded to endure the degradations of the others; possessing a chosen country, with room enough for our descendants to the thousandth and thousandth generation; entertaining a due sense of our equal right to the use of our own faculties, to the acquisitions of our own industry, to honor and confidence from our fellow citizens, resulting not from birth, but from our actions and their sense of them; enlightened by a benign religion, professed, indeed, and practiced in various forms, yet all of them inculcating honesty, truth, temperance, gratitude, and the love of man; acknowledging and adoring an overruling Providence, which by all its dispensations proves that it delights in the happiness of man here and his greater happiness hereafter, with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow citizens, a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.

About to enter, fellow citizens, on the exercise of duties which comprehend everything dear and valuable to you, it is proper you should understand what I deem the essential principles of our Government, and consequently those which ought to shape its Administration. I will compress them within the narrowest compass they will bear, stating the general principle, but not all its limitations. Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none; the support of the State governments in all their rights, as the most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against anti-republican tendencies; the preservation of the General Government in its whole constitutional vigor, as the sheet anchor of our peace at home and safety abroad; a jealous care of the right of election by the people, a mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided; absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force, the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism; a well disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them; the supremacy of the civil over the military authority; economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened; the honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith; encouragement of agriculture, and of commerce as its handmaid; the diffusion of information and arraignment of all abuses at the bar of the public reason; freedom of religion; freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected. These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety.

I repair, then, fellow citizens, to the post you have assigned me. With experience enough in subordinate offices to have seen the difficulties of this the greatest of all, I have learnt to expect that it will rarely fall to the lot of imperfect man to retire from this station with the reputation and the favor which bring him into it. Without pretensions to that high confidence you reposed in our first and greatest revolutionary character, whose preeminent services had entitled him to the first place in his country's love and destined for him the fairest page in the volume of faithful history, I ask so much confidence only as may give firmness and effect to the legal administration of your affairs. I shall often go wrong through defect of judgment. When right, I shall often be thought wrong by those whose positions will not command a view of the whole ground. I ask your indulgence for my own errors, which will never be intentional, and your support against the errors of others, who may condemn what they would not if seen in all its parts. The approbation implied by your suffrage is a great consolation to me for the past, and my future solicitude will be to retain the good opinion of those who have bestowed it in advance, to conciliate that of others by doing them all the good in my power, and to be instrumental to the happiness and freedom of all.

Relying, then, on the patronage of your good will, I advance with obedience to the work, ready to retire from it whenever you become sensible how much better choice it is in your power to make. And may that Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the universe lead our councils to what is best, and give them a favorable issue for your peace and prosperity.
 

pip, did you see this part of your post? Pull yourself together!
"Let us, then, with courage and confidence pursue our own Federal and Republican principles,"
 

Thomas Jefferson did use the term republic in his writing...not in the legal foundation documents...
guess some have issues with comprehension...it is all so confusing...even Jefferson's definitions of "republic" steer towards democracy...oh heaven forbid...

"The catholic principle of republicanism is that every people may
establish what form of government they please and change it as
they please, the will of the nation being the only thing
essential." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1792.

"The mother principle [is] that 'governments are republican only
in proportion as they embody the will of their people, and
execute it.'" --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816.

"A government is republican in proportion as every member
composing it has his equal voice in the direction of its concerns:
not indeed in person, which would be impracticable beyond the
limits of a city or small township, but by representatives chosen
by himself and responsible to him at short periods." --Thomas
Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816.

"We may say with truth and meaning that governments are more or
less republican as they have more or less of the element of
popular election and control in their composition; and believing
as I do that the mass of the citizens is the safest depository of
their own rights, and especially that the evils flowing from the
duperies of the people are less injurious than those from the
egoism of their agents, I am a friend to that composition of
government which has in it the most of this ingredient." --Thomas
Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816.

"Action by the citizens in person, in affairs within their reach
and competence, and in all others by representatives, chosen
immediately, and removable by themselves, constitutes the essence
of a republic... All governments are more or less republican in
proportion as this principle enters more or less into their
composition." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de
Nemours, 1816.

"It must be acknowledged that the term "republic" is of very vague
application in every language... Were I to assign to this term a
precise and definite idea, I would say purely and simply it means
a government by its citizens in mass, acting directly and
personally according to rules established by the majority; and
that every other government is more or less republican in
proportion as it has in its composition more or less of this
ingredient of direct action of the citizens. Such a government is
evidently restrained to very narrow limits of space and
population. I doubt if it would be practicable beyond the extent
of a New England township." --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor,
1816.

"It accords with our principles to acknowledge any government to
be rightful which is formed by the will of the nation
substantially declared." --Thomas Jefferson to Gouverneur Morris,
1792.

"The further the departure from direct and constant control by the
citizens, the less has the government the ingredient of
republicanism; evidently none where the authorities are
hereditary... or self-chosen... and little, where for life, in
proportion as the life continues in being after the act of
election." --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816.

"If, then, the control of the people over the organs of their
government be the measure of its republicanism, and I confess I
know no other measure, it must be agreed that our governments
have much less of republicanism than ought to have been expected;
in other words, that the people have less regular control over
their agents, than their rights and their interests require. And
this I ascribe, not to any want of republican dispositions in
those who formed these constitutions, but to a submission of true
principle to European authorities, to speculators on government,
whose fears of the people have been inspired by the populace of
their own great cities, and were unjustly entertained against the
independent, the happy, and therefore orderly citizens of the
United States. Much I apprehend that the golden moment is past
for reforming these heresies. The functionaries of public power
rarely strengthen in their dispositions to abridge it, and an
unorganized call for timely amendment is not likely to prevail
against an organized opposition to it." --Thomas Jefferson to
John Taylor,1816.

"The republican is the only form of government which is not
eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind."
--Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Address, 1790.

"It is, indeed, of little consequence who governs us, if they
sincerely and zealously cherish the principles of union and
republicanism." --Thomas Jefferson to Henry Dearborn, 1821.


=Majority Rule=

"The first principle of republicanism is that the lex majoris
partis is the fundamental law of every society of individuals of
equal rights; to consider the will of the society enounced by the
majority of a single vote as sacred as if unanimous is the first
of all lessons in importance, yet the last which is thoroughly
learnt. This law once disregarded, no other remains but that of
force, which ends necessarily in military despotism." --Thomas
Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1817.

"And where else will this degenerate son of science [Hume], this
traitor to his fellow men, find the origin of just powers, if not
in the majority of the society? Will it be in the minority? Or
in an individual of that minority?" --Thomas Jefferson to John
Cartwright, 1824.

"Where the law of the majority ceases to be acknowledged, there
government ends; the law of the strongest takes its place, and
life and property are his who can take them." --Thomas Jefferson
to Annapolis Citizens, 1809.

"A nation ceases to be republican...when the will of the majority
ceases to be the law." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Address,
1808.

"Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its
administration must be conducted by common consent." --Thomas
Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"This corporeal globe, and everything upon it, belong to its
present corporeal inhabitants during their generation. They
alone have a right to direct what is the concern of themselves
alone, and to declare the law of that direction; and this
declaration can only be made by their majority. That majority,
then, has a right to depute representatives to a convention, and
to make the constitution what they think will be the best for
themselves." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816.

"The lex majoris partis [is a] fundamental law of nature, by which
alone self-government can be exercised by a society." --Thomas
Jefferson to James Breckenridge, 1800.

"The fundamental law of every society is the lex majoris partis,
to which we are bound to submit." --Thomas Jefferson to D.
Humphreys, 1789.

"The fundamental principle of the government is that the will of
the majority is to prevail." --Thomas Jefferson to William Eustis,
1809.

"We are sensible of the duty and expediency of submitting our
opinions to the will of the majority, and can wait with patience
till they get right if they happen to be at any time wrong."
--Thomas Jefferson to James Breckenridge, 1800.

"The will of the people... is the only legitimate foundation of any
government, and to protect its free expression should be our first
object." --Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Waring, 1801.

"Every man, and every body of men on earth, possesses the right of
self-government. They receive it with their being from the hand
of nature. Individuals exercise it by their single will;
collections of men by that of their majority; for the law of the
majority is the natural law of every society of men." --Thomas
Jefferson: Opinion, Residence Bill, 1790.

"If we are faithful to our country, if we acquiesce, with good
will, in the decisions of the majority, and the nation moves in
mass in the same direction, although it may not be that which
every individual thinks best, we have nothing to fear from any
quarter." --Thomas Jefferson to Virginia Baptists, 1808.

"I subscribe to the principle, that the will of the majority
honestly expressed should give law." --Thomas Jefferson: Anas,
1793.

"I readily suppose my opinion wrong, when opposed by the
majority." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1788.

"It is my principle that the will of the majority should always
prevail. If they approve the proposed convention in all its
parts, I shall concur in it cheerfully, in hopes that they will
amend it whenever they shall find it works wrong." --Thomas
Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.

"If the measures which have been pursued are approved by the
majority, it is the duty of the minority to acquiesce and
conform." --Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1811.

"Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the
majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful,
must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights,
which equal laws must protect, and to violate would be
oppression." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801.

"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime,
abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest
breaks up the foundations of society." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierre
Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1816.


=Self-Government=

"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers
from the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration
of Independence, 1776.

"The equal rights of man, and the happiness of every individual,
are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of
government. Modern times have the signal advantage, too, of
having discovered the only device by which these rights can be
secured, to wit: government by the people, acting not in person,
but by representatives chosen by themselves, that is to say, by
every man of ripe years and sane mind, who contributes either by
his purse or person to the support of his country." --Thomas
Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823.

"Man [is] a rational animal, endowed by nature with rights, and
with an innate sense of justice; and... he [can] be restrained
from wrong and protected in right, by moderate powers, confided
to persons of his own choice, and held to their duties by
dependence on his own will." --Thomas Jefferson to William Johnson,
1823.

"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the
government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the
government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of
kings to govern him? Let history answer this question." --Thomas
Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801.

"The qualifications for self-government in society are not innate.
They are the result of habit and long training." --Thomas
Jefferson to Edward Everett, 1824.

"It is a happy truth that man is capable of self-government, and
only rendered otherwise by the moral degradation designedly
superinduced on him by the wicked acts of his tyrant." --Thomas
Jefferson to M. de Marbois, 1817.

"[Our] object is to secure self government by the republicanism
of our constitution, as well as by the spirit of the people; and
to nourish and perpetuate that spirit. I am not among those who
fear the people. They and not the rich are our dependence for
continued freedom." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816.

"The spirit of our people... would oblige even a despot to govern
us republicanly." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816.

"The people, being the only safe depository of power, should
exercise in person every function which their qualifications
enable them to exercise consistently with the order and security
of society. We now find them equal to the election of those who
shall be invested with their executive and legislative powers,
and to act themselves in the judiciary as judges in questions of
fact. The range of their powers ought to be enlarged." --Thomas
Jefferson to Walter Jones, 1814.

"Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people; whose
rights, however, to the exercise and fruits of their own industry
can never be protected against the selfishness of rulers not
subject to their control at short periods... My most earnest wish
is to see the republican element of popular control pushed to the
maximum of its practicable exercise. I shall then believe that
our government may be pure and perpetual." --Thomas Jefferson to
Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.

"That government which can wield the arm of the people must be
the strongest possible." --Thomas Jefferson to Mr. Weaver, 1807.

"It should be remembered as an axiom of eternal truth in politics,
that whatever power in any government is independent, is
absolute also; in theory only at first while the spirit of the
people is up, but in practice as fast as that relaxes." --Thomas
Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819.

"If the happiness of the mass of the people can be secured at the
expense of a little tempest now and then, or even of a little
blood, it will be a precious purchase." --Thomas Jefferson to
Ezra Stiles, 1786.

"Let this be the distinctive mark of an American that in cases of
commotion, he enlists himself under no man's banner, inquires for
no man's name, but repairs to the standard of the laws. Do this,
and you need never fear anarchy or tyranny. Your government will
be perpetual." --Thomas Jefferson: Manuscript, 1801?

"Our falling into anarchy would decide forever the destinies of
mankind, and seal the political heresy that man is incapable of
self-government." --Thomas Jefferson to John Hollins, 1811.

"My most earnest wish is to see the republican element of popular
control pushed to the maximum of its practicable exercise. I
shall then believe that our Government may be pure and perpetual."
--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.

"I deem no government safe which is under the vassalage of any
self-constituted authorities, or any other authority than that of
the nation, or its regular functionaries." --Thomas Jefferson to
Albert Gallatin, 1803.

"The voluntary support of laws, formed by persons of their own
choice, distinguishes peculiarly the minds capable of
self-government. The contrary spirit is anarchy, which of
necessity produces despotism." --Thomas Jefferson to Philadelphia
Citizens, 1809.

"I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that
men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master. Could
the contrary of this be proved, I should conclude either that
there is no God, or that He is a malevolent being." --Thomas
Jefferson to David Hartley, 1787.



Compilation copyrighted 1996 by Eyler Robert Coates, Sr.
Permission hereby granted to quote single excerpts separately.




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Maybe you need to take reading comprehension, pip?
 

A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution)... A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule)...

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution... Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",

"We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior... It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic..." James Madison, Federalist No... 10, (1787)

"A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority... There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men..." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic... The following comes from Training Manual No... 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928...

DEMOCRACY:

A government of the masses...
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression...
Results in mobocracy...
Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights...
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences...
Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy...

REPUBLIC:

Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them...
Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences...
A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass....
Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy...
Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress...
Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world...

The manuals containing these definitions were ordered destroyed without explanation about the same time that President Franklin D Roosevelt made private ownership of our lawful money (US Minted Gold Coins) illegal... Shortly after the people turned in their $20 gold coins, the price was increased from $20 per ounce to $35 per ounce... Almost overnight FDR, the most popular president this century (elected 4 times) looted almost half of this nation's wealth, while convincing the people that it was for their own good... Many of FDR's policies were suggested by his right hand man, Harry Hopkins, who said,

"Tax and Tax, Spend and Spend, Elect and Elect, because the people are too damn dumb to know the difference"...



REPUBLICS VS DEMOCRACIES

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

2007 September 18

We are dealing here with one of the reasons people make a distinction between republics and democracies... In recent years, we have been taught to believe that a democracy is the ideal form of government... Supposedly, that is what was created by the American Constitution... But, if you read the documents and the speech transcripts of the men who wrote the Constitution, you find that they spoke very poorly of democracy... They said in plain words that a democracy was one of the worst possible forms of government. And so they created what they called a republic... That is why the word democracy doesn’t appear anywhere in the Constitution; and, when Americans pledge allegiance to the flag, it’s to the republic for which it stands, not the democracy... When Colonel Davy Crockett joined the Texas Revolution prior to the famous Battle of the Alamo, he refused to sign the oath of allegiance to the future government of Texas until the wording was changed to the future republican government of Texas...

The reason this is important is that the difference between a democracy and a republic is the difference between collectivism and individualism...

In a pure democracy, the majority rules; end of discussion. You might say, “What’s wrong with that?” Well, there could be plenty wrong with that. What about a lynch mob? There is only one person with a dissenting vote, and he is the guy at the end of the rope... That’s pure democracy in action... “Ah, wait a minute,” you say... “The majority should rule... Yes, but not to the extent of denying the rights of the minority,” and, of course, you would be correct... That is precisely what a republic accomplishes... A republic is a government based on the principle of limited majority rule so that the minority – even a minority of one – will be protected from the whims and passions of the majority... Republics are often characterized by written constitutions that spell out the rules to make that possible... That was the function of the American Bill of Rights, which is nothing more than a list of things the government may not do... It says that Congress, even though it represents the majority, shall pass no law denying the minority their rights to free exercise of religion, freedom of speech, peaceful assembly, the right to bear arms, and other “unalienable” rights...

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/Republic VS Democracy.html

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I know you will not believe TH or me Pip. Si I will leave this for you, in case you happen to see this from the Constitution of the United States.

Article. IV. Section. 1.
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Section. 2.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.
No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.
Section. 3.
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
Section. 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
 

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