Napoleon & Jefferson

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It's amazing that every time the Bonaparte's ran into trouble, well, it just seems the same group of people are always there to bail them out.
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Oddly, this is the same group of people who negotiated the Louisiana Purchase from who......that's right, the Bonapartes.

Curious thing here - if you were Napoleon, why would you agree to sell the only piece of real estate that you might ever be allowed to step foot in if your struggling campaign failed, which was likely? In the beginning of these negotiations the Bonaparte's and their advisers were firm against the sell of this vital territory, but after Monroe arrived on the scene it was suddenly, "OK. You got a deal." Now considering just how critically important this territory was to Napoleon, what on earth could have possibly persuaded him to sell?

He needed more $$$$$$$$$$$$ for his war against Russia.

 

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He needed more $$$$$$$$$$$$ for his war against Russia.

That's the generally accepted notion as being the reason he sold it, and it is true that he did need the money, but there had to be something more in the deal to help change his mind because he and his advisers were firmly against the notion until after Monroe arrived on the scene. Read the following and maul it over.

Over a period of time Napoleon makes several references to arriving in America to become a farmer, he often makes these references as if he is somewhat torn between the notion. But the question is; “Why all the focus on becoming a farmer?” He speaks of this as if it were his only option if he were to come to America.

Back to the Louisiana Purchase, the one territory above all else that Napoleon couldn’t afford to lose, not only did he have plans for the region but this region might also represent the only territory he could occupy if his campaign ended in failure, which was very likely. So why did he suddenly agree to sell it after Jefferson sent James Monroe back into the negotiations? Hold this thought.

If Napoleon hadn’t deviated from plans he would have safely arrived in America, just as General Lallamand and so many others had managed. From the very moment these men arrived in America they were granted a large partial of land in the south at the speed of light so they could become, you guessed it, “Farmers”.

When we look back on the Louisiana Purchase it seems unreasonable that Napoleon could have ever been convinced to sell it – unless – it secured something more then just money for his struggling campaign. So what if this sale also secured his future exile when needed? There is a rather long list of U.S. vital assistance in regards to the Bonapartes and their supporters, very curious to say the least. And even after Napoleon’s capture and exile on that rocky island there was still a great deal of confidence in his future escape among his family and loyal supporters, especially those already safely in the U.S.

But here was the mistake – the move into the disputed territory came too early, sort of a favorable situation for the U.S. that they took full advantage of. Not only did this move put additional pressure on the Spanish, but it also offered the U.S. vital clue into the real plans Napoleon had set in motion for his exile here. The disputed territory was just that, part of the Louisiana Purchase but also a region within that purchase that nobody held clear jurisdiction over. In essence it was free for the squatting and Napoleon wsn’t about to be reduced to farming. However, and this was the grave error by Lallamand and his other loyal supporters, the only real hope Napoleon had of ever getting off that island resided in U.S. assistance. This is why Adam’s, Monroe, etc., never saw any cause to place too much concern over the French advance into the disputed territory, because they knew they ultimately held the key to any possible chance of Napoleon’s escape from that rocky island.

The Monroe Doctrine – originally penned by Adams and shortly after the ratification of the Adam’s Onis Treaty – a document that was clearly aimed at those still hopeful Napoleon loyalist. Many years after the fact Napoleon III still singled this document out as the one that eventually served to crush all hope of his family’s plans, policies, and business interest, ever being allowed to take root in the U.S. Why would only Napoleon III single this document out if had been aimed at all others with equal passion? As late as 1863 – 64 the Bonapartes were still trying to establish themselves in the U.S. Question is; “Did it all start with the Louisiana Purchase?” From all that we have researched thus far I would have to answer a most resounding, “Yes.”

 

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That's the generally accepted notion as being the reason he sold it, and it is true that he did need the money, but there had to be something more in the deal to help change his mind because he and his advisers were firmly against the notion until after Monroe arrived on the scene. Read the following and maul it over.

Over a period of time Napoleon makes several references to arriving in America to become a farmer, he often makes these references as if he is somewhat torn between the notion. But the question is; “Why all the focus on becoming a farmer?” He speaks of this as if it were his only option if he were to come to America.

Back to the Louisiana Purchase, the one territory above all else that Napoleon couldn’t afford to lose, not only did he have plans for the region but this region might also represent the only territory he could occupy if his campaign ended in failure, which was very likely. So why did he suddenly agree to sell it after Jefferson sent James Monroe back into the negotiations? Hold this thought.

If Napoleon hadn’t deviated from plans he would have safely arrived in America, just as General Lallamand and so many others had managed. From the very moment these men arrived in America they were granted a large partial of land in the south at the speed of light so they could become, you guessed it, “Farmers”.

When we look back on the Louisiana Purchase it seems unreasonable that Napoleon could have ever been convinced to sell it – unless – it secured something more then just money for his struggling campaign. So what if this sale also secured his future exile when needed? There is a rather long list of U.S. vital assistance in regards to the Bonapartes and their supporters, very curious to say the least. And even after Napoleon’s capture and exile on that rocky island there was still a great deal of confidence in his future escape among his family and loyal supporters, especially those already safely in the U.S.

But here was the mistake – the move into the disputed territory came too early, sort of a favorable situation for the U.S. that they took full advantage of. Not only did this move put additional pressure on the Spanish, but it also offered the U.S. vital clue into the real plans Napoleon had set in motion for his exile here. The disputed territory was just that, part of the Louisiana Purchase but also a region within that purchase that nobody held clear jurisdiction over. In essence it was free for the squatting and Napoleon wsn’t about to be reduced to farming. However, and this was the grave error by Lallamand and his other loyal supporters, the only real hope Napoleon had of ever getting off that island resided in U.S. assistance. This is why Adam’s, Monroe, etc., never saw any cause to place too much concern over the French advance into the disputed territory, because they knew they ultimately held the key to any possible chance of Napoleon’s escape from that rocky island.

The Monroe Doctrine – originally penned by Adams and shortly after the ratification of the Adam’s Onis Treaty – a document that was clearly aimed at those still hopeful Napoleon loyalist. Many years after the fact Napoleon III still singled this document out as the one that eventually served to crush all hope of his family’s plans, policies, and business interest, ever being allowed to take root in the U.S. Why would only Napoleon III single this document out if had been aimed at all others with equal passion? As late as 1863 – 64 the Bonapartes were still trying to establish themselves in the U.S. Question is; “Did it all start with the Louisiana Purchase?” From all that we have researched thus far I would have to answer a most resounding, “Yes.”

It WAS the MONROE DOCTRINE... to STOP any further foreign "investments" in areas north, west, southwest of the "vision" of America/United States. French were ALSO coming down from FRENCH Canada, which was ALSO part-BRIT.
And the BRITS, Spanish/Mexicans...