🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Mysterious eastern bronze bowl please help with translation,

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Hello and thank you for your help.

Purchased this recently on eBay.
From an American seller, who sells mostly high quality asian stuff .
He called it a 1900 Persian bowl
No further info, he had it listed without all the figural images shown. And even upside down photos to lead. It was most affordable compared to his other stuff.
With currency exchange and shipping and even duties this did cost me a little..

It had some mystery and looked cool compared to others...
My main questions are what kind of script?
Can it be translated?
what culture ,what styles ? What era/ age. Whats depicted? And any further info.
There is 12 images on the bowl
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Here are some better shots of the coin script I find most similar
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A few of the examples are certainly wedding bowls. But I find mine quite different. With the script specifically
But the 12 seperate images. Not a fully engraved peice.. and the images with lion atack? And 2 people spearing a long snout creature? Don't fit well I find. Also the shape..
 

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The shape to me is most reminiscent of incesnce burners or censers.
Mine is all around decorated with lotus flowers. An aromatic plant that is also psychoactive and medicinal....

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Yours is not Chinese... or any other Asian made piece IMO.
 

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I don't think Chinese either,
I still think from the great steppe culture
Wich went as far west as the Russ principalities and the Caucasus, Anatolia etc... the largest empire that ruled for a long time. By various names... A history most modern countries wish to forget it seems.
 

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These symbols in the script can be mongol/ buddist

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What I called clan seal script on the Mongol coins.
I also find similar stuff called tamgas
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I reached out to someone at the Ontario university of Ontario who is supposed to know dead languages. Still waiting for a response. I am still looking for direction in getting the script identified. Pseudo script or something Novel...
Kind of have this research project in the back burner now. But would still like guidance , I had some suggestions and a few opinions for script type now. But nothing conclusive yet.
In the mean time a few new photos. A stand I purchased arrived today. A small treasure in itself, to me anyways...
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