My Movie

Do I have to say it....
Art if you take your eyes off the keyboard you are pecking at
for just a second and look at the computer screen and actually
digest what you are seeing, you will clearly see that af1733 was
addressing 10claw, not you. It is profoundly arrogant of you
to assume every post here is directed at your overblown ego.
When some ding dong insults my follow treasure hunters they are insulting me. It is sure queer that when a new treasure hunter enters this site that the game plan seems to be get rid of the trash because they make to much sense….Art
 

No Art, wrong again, you clearly knee jerk responded to this
thinking af was addressing you, illustrated by your quote
below. busted again

aarthrj3811 said:
In the first place I did not just enter into this thread.

It's okay though buddy, you can edit out your goof and
no one will know right :wink:
 

10claw said:
:read2: o.k., now i can tell everybody what the trouble is with swr,af1733,davebien,saturna,and pronghorn. before i do , hear this; i started out metal detecting about 1970 with a metrotech detector. since then i've owned several different one's. i have found many good silver coins and no gold coins. i have found s. coins black as night, some with rust caked on them and some with a shine as if they were dropped the same day i found them. one half dime i found with the 'o' mintmark, made in 1830 was a perfect specimen. nice and shining. now for the children- they all have been educated beyond their intelligence and it's impossible for them to accept simple english. as for pronghorn, maybe he should get a real face for his avatar.

Okay, I will put up a new picture in my avatar just for you.
As soon as I finish this thought.

If I had an LRL that I believed was absolutely working,
I would think I would be glad that people on a treasure
forum were discrediting them. That would mean that less people
would buy them and I would have that much more treasure to
aquire without competition. You see Art and all you believers,
we sceptics are actually doing you a favor. Because of us fewer
people will be out there finding all that gold and you get it all
for yourselves.

Not so good I guess if you are a seller of these amazingly
accurate gizmos. But if you have a machine that finds
gold consistently, why are you wasting time selling them
when you could be siding your trailerhouse with gold bricks?

I will now change my avatar
 

A question for the true believers who don't sell LRLs. Why do you care if anyone thinks they are a hoax? Nobody can stop you from using yours. In fact, no one is even trying to stop you.
 

pronghorn said:
No Art, wrong again, you clearly knee jerk responded to this
thinking af was addressing you, illustrated by your quote
below. busted again

aarthrj3811 said:
In the first place I did not just enter into this thread.

It's okay though buddy, you can edit out your goof and
no one will know right :wink:
Yep Art, sure does look like you were showing your a$$ again.

You know, one can't help but wonder.......if Art took the time to learn how to quote, he might have known where to look to see who it was I was quoting..... ::)

At any rate, I actually did address some of your past statements in that post Art but, as is your MO, I'm guessing you completely avoided the portion having to do with you, and instead focused on what I wrote to someone else. I have you on ignore, Art, and therefore have no need to address you unless prompted, as in this situation. Go play with your coat hangers, little man, and let the adults talk.......
 

Tommy Torquemada said:
A question for the true believers who don't sell LRLs. Why do you care if anyone thinks they are a hoax? Nobody can stop you from using yours. In fact, no one is even trying to stop you.

That question has been asked in the past; and remains unanswered.

The mere fact that "they" spend an enormous amount of their time here would lend credence to the supposition "they" would rather argue about it than practice it. Turns out it is a priority issue with them... I guess. :dontknow: Apparently it is very boring going out everyday, into the wilderness and digging up bright and shiny silver dollars after spending only about 10 minutes walking in little circles. I can see where that would not be anywhere near as much fun as sitting on their posterior, creating unintelligible sentences on a forum where the world could be watching and losing every word battle they enter.

Of course those with a vested financial interest maintain their presence here for totally different reasons.
 

If I had an LRL that I believed was absolutely working,
I would think I would be glad that people on a treasure
forum were discrediting them. That would mean that less people
would buy them and I would have that much more treasure to
aquire without competition. You see Art and all you believers,
we sceptics are actually doing you a favor. Because of us fewer
people will be out there finding all that gold and you get it all
for yourselves.
Not so good I guess if you are a seller of these amazingly
accurate gizmos. But if you have a machine that finds
gold consistently, why are you wasting time selling them
when you could be siding your trailerhouse with gold bricks?
A question for the true believers who don't sell LRLs. Why do you care if anyone thinks they are a hoax? Nobody can stop you from using yours. In fact, no one is even trying to stop you.
The mere fact that "they" spend an enormous amount of their time here would lend credence to the supposition "they" would rather argue about it than practice it. Turns out it is a priority issue with them... I guess. Apparently it is very boring going out everyday, into the wilderness and digging up bright and shiny silver dollars after spending only about 10 minutes walking in little circles. I can see where that would not be anywhere near as much fun as sitting on their posterior, creating unintelligible sentences on a forum where the world could be watching and losing every word battle they enter.
These post make me feel good…A few of you guy’s and a clone discussing how great they are. Trying to bolster their egos and rally the troops..What you need is a whole new game plan. May be one that has one or two real facts in it. It is hard when people find out that you guy’s are all big fakes….Art
 

Ted Groves said:
Tommy Torquemada said:
A question for the true believers who don't sell LRLs. Why do you care if anyone thinks they are a hoax? Nobody can stop you from using yours. In fact, no one is even trying to stop you.

That question has been asked in the past; and remains unanswered.

The mere fact that "they" spend an enormous amount of their time here would lend credence to the supposition "they" would rather argue about it than practice it. Turns out it is a priority issue with them... I guess. :dontknow: Apparently it is very boring going out everyday, into the wilderness and digging up bright and shiny silver dollars after spending only about 10 minutes walking in little circles. I can see where that would not be anywhere near as much fun as sitting on their posterior, creating unintelligible sentences on a forum where the world could be watching and losing every word battle they enter.

Of course those with a vested financial interest maintain their presence here for totally different reasons.

I speak only for myself on this one.

I think I have answered this in the past...I may possibly be wrong. The answer is....I don't care if people think they are a hoax. My problem is with someone trying to "make me see the light", which to me is an indirect way of saying "since we don't believe in this, you shouldn't either".

Of course, a good debate is fun and makes the workday go by faster. ;D

As far as spending great amounts of time on here, that is not true for me. The only time I get on here is when I'm at work and can't get outside. :thumbsup:
 

EddieR said:
.....I don't care if people think they are a hoax. My problem is with someone trying to "make me see the light"

Your attitude sparks a couple of questions.... :icon_scratch:

a) Have you always felt this way towards concepts and axioms that were presented to you in the course of obtaining your higher education? (I'm guessing probably not, else you may never have completed it, or passed the Bar Exam.)

b) Hypothetically... when you set about to purchase a new car or a new pizza oven; do you carry out any research on the item prior to purchase?
 

Ted Groves said:
EddieR said:
.....I don't care if people think they are a hoax. My problem is with someone trying to "make me see the light"

Your attitude sparks a couple of questions.... :icon_scratch:

a) Have you always felt this way towards concepts and axioms that were presented to you in the course of obtaining your higher education? (I'm guessing probably not, else you may never have completed it, or passed the Bar Exam.)

b) Hypothetically... when you set about to purchase a new car or a new pizza oven; do you carry out any research on the item prior to purchase?

My "attitude" is simply this: Just because it's in a textbook, magazine, newspaper, or the internet doesn't make it so. Sometimes experience overrides something previously learned.

I just prefer to make up my own mind based on my experiences. If I make a bad choice, so what? I learn a lesson, learn a new way of thinking about the subject, and go on with life.

Of course, this doesn't apply to things that will affect others, only things that directly affect me.

As for as a car or pizza oven, I talk to people that have used that model and can speak from first-hand experience, I don't go by what the magazines say. :icon_thumleft:
 

EddieR said:
As for as a car or pizza oven, I talk to people that have used that model and can speak from first-hand experience, I don't go by what the magazines say. :icon_thumleft:

Well, good.... the point is you do your research and then you use what you learned to influence your own decision as to how to proceed.

If you stop to consider for a moment.... you are talking here with a few of us who have first-hand experience with LRL/MFDs and the dowsing phenomenon. Yet, in regards to this subject, you are rejecting ones' first-hand experience. Guess it depends to you whether it is first-hand experience with an LRL or a pizza oven; as to how you will accept it or not. :dontknow:

(and, yes, I do realize your first-hand experience was different from some of the rest of us.)
 

Ted Groves said:
EddieR said:
As for as a car or pizza oven, I talk to people that have used that model and can speak from first-hand experience, I don't go by what the magazines say. :icon_thumleft:

Well, good.... the point is you do your research and then you use what you learned to influence your own decision as to how to proceed.

If you stop to consider for a moment.... you are talking here with a few of us who have first-hand experience with LRL/MFDs and the dowsing phenomenon. Yet, in regards to this subject, you are rejecting ones' first-hand experience. Guess it depends to you whether it is first-hand experience with an LRL or a pizza oven; as to how you will accept it or not. :dontknow:

You are not taking into consideration MY personal experiences. If I ask ten people about a pizza oven, and they all tell me how great it is, but that model is the one I just trashed because it wasn't performing as I needed, then I'm not going to buy that oven again just because other people like it. My personal experience will over-ride others recommendations.

I will treat LRL's/dowsing the same way.
 

"Frequency Discrimination" is a fabricated term used by LRL manufactures/salesmen. Such a sad site to see, to whine about "Scientific Pretenders" from one face...then the other face uses these madeup nonexistent terms/phrases
Panic time from the Scientific Pretenders who have no proof and have proved it for months now…My movie shows 100% frequency discriminations…..Sad times in the cult tonight…Art
 

EddieR said:
My personal experience will over-ride others recommendations.

I will treat LRL's/dowsing the same way.

That's cool. Whatever you feel comfortable in doing. Good luck. :wave:
 

Dell Winders said:
I haven't seen any evidence that this particular Ted Groves, even existed before he started posting on this forum. So where do we find any evidence to support his claims that he actually is who he claims to be, or has any factual knowledge whatsoever of how, or when LRLS actually work.

Irresponsible postings without creditability, or accepting accountability seems to demonstrate Ted's' desire to cover up, and hide his past. So, who is he that he is afraid to come forth and reveal his true identity, for the sake of credibility, and accountability?
I'm curious, what gives you the impression that Ted is hiding anything about himself? And why should the fact that he wasn't posting here before the LRL threads give you pause at all? I've seen several "believers" come and go with just a single post to their names. At least Ted has stuck around to see this through......
 

I'm curious, what gives you the impression that Ted is hiding anything about himself? And why should the fact that he wasn't posting here before the LRL threads give you pause at all? I've seen several "believers" come and go with just a single post to their names. At least Ted has stuck around to see this through......
At least Ted has stuck around to see this through......
Big deal…we understand everything AF….Art
 

Cool. Could you give the rest of us a brief explanation of how quantum physics works?
Could you please tell me what quantum physics has to do with my movie?
True, but there are no debates here. One group postulates scientific theories, and the other group replies with name calling, "twist and spin", and other non-responsive posts.
Your right….This is not a debate. It is a discussion board.
One group postulates scientific theories, and the other group replies with name calling, "twist and spin", and other non-responsive posts.
Thank you for telling us exactly what the skeptics theories of debate is….Twist and spin and non responsive posts are correct. I would like to ad also Ducking and dodging answers…Art
 

aarthrj3811 said:
Your right….This is not a debate. It is a discussion board.

It's supposed to be a discussion board, but only one group discusses. The other group just says things like, "Twist and spin. Scammers. Skeptics." and other nonsense.

As for you personally Art, I give you credit. You have always been polite to me and answered my questions.
 

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