My best game piece yet! I need to be thankful for the rain!!!

[larson1951]

more info on post #63
just when i discovered that my tomatoes have some early blight on them
i go on a walk to try to shake the bad news
next thing i find this huge game piece, the best i've ever found
i'm glad i had my camera with
lars

 

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[possumheaded]

Neat find! Sorry to hear about the blight.

Ed

 

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[CRUSADER]

Bone artifacts are rare as they decompose pretty quick. When found they often show incised lines or decorations on them. Larson found one in very good shape from an area where people lived off the buffalo. Game stones were made by many ancient cultures and most found are made out of stone. Some end up being drilled all the way through and worn and are called gorgets. It can get tricky on I.D with out a written history.They gambled and traded with items like these because there was no currency. It is Art and craftsmanship in the stone age.
Items like this are similar to say CW/US belt buckle or in coins a rare copper or a key date Indian head a nice reale or a good gold ring out of a tot lot.
The value of one in that condition could possibly buy a couple metal detectors
Neo gave a good link in that link was a better explanation of items like this in that particular culture. I do not know why everyone did not try to help explain this so you would know what is on your banner bar. There have been hundreds of artifact items that are banner worthy roll by unnoticed. I guess Jeff thought it would be nice to have an ancient artifact rolling by. Here is some from the link:
Young women sat on the ice wrapped in buffalo robes and played gambling games. A common one was played by two teams with two to eight players each. As in many such amusements, the object was to slide a game piece to a goal. In this case, a bone thrower made from a buffalo vertebra was used to propel the gaming piece towards the goal, which was a piece of wood about three inches long, notched at each end and painted red. The game piece itself was either a flat, circular river pebble or a small, square piece of buffalo vertebra. Such bone pieces were usually decorated with two carved lines stretching from corner to corner and crossing in the center.
Hope this helps Nice find Larson. Congratulations !!
TnMtns

Thanks for spending the time to explain, its clearer than the links I read (which were useful, so thanks to Neo as well). This was all that was needed at the start, to educate as all & would have put a stop on the pleading & discussions. oh well...

 

[Deepdiger60]

Now how cool is that a game piece from ancient American Natives Thanks for the explanation on here you learn something new each day Dd60

 

[larson1951]

sorry for the lack of explanation
i was preoccupied after finding 122 tomato plants with early blight on them
i did this post in a hurry and was out working til dark, then come home and tipped over not knowing about all this activity
i am truly sorry for not spending more time initially
i sure appreciate all the comments, you are my friends.......THANK YOU for the banner votes
here is a picture of a few more game pieces, i am lucky to find one every two years but never such a big one and in exc condition
before i post the image i am putting a link here, after you click on the link scroll to page 152, figure 556

http://books.google.com/books?id=a0...in north america&pg=PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false

once again thanks much, larson

 

[CRUSADER]

sorry for the lack of explanation
i was preoccupied after finding 122 tomato plants with early blight on them
i did this post in a hurry and was out working til dark, then come home and tipped over not knowing about all this activity
i am truly sorry for not spending more time initially
i sure appreciate all the comments, you are my friends.......THANK YOU for the banner votes
here is a picture of a few more game pieces, i am lucky to find one every two years but never such a big one and in exc condition
before i post the image i am putting a link here, after you click on the link scroll to page 152, figure 556

http://books.google.com/books?id=a0...in north america&pg=PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false

once again thanks much, larson

Thanks & sorry for the badgering, I just couldn't get my head around the lack of details for such an exciting find But I guess thats because I don't do gardening or grow tomato's

 

[AGCoinHunter]

Congrats on the cool find, Lars. And sorry to hear about your tomatoes, I can sympathise. All mine this year got the blight so it looks like not many nice ones this year.

 

[mastereagle22]

I am not tryin to be a smart Alic..I am truly trying to help....If you dno't know about artifacts..just ask and folks will try to help....

I don't metal detect....But they get all happy when finding metal stuff(buckles,buttons..etc)For me they are too new to get that happy about...But thats just me....Some of the stone artifacts are thousands of years old.

I am not trying to start anything...neo

You have my most sincere apology. I am not trying to start anything. I am interested in all aspects of treasure hunting but some of the areas, like this one, escape me. I don't even know where to start researching stuff. I have not even found one Arrow Head although I have tried several times, and yes there are arrow heads around here to find.

Thanks for trying to explain it a little better and that is a really interesting item to find. I have no problems with it being on the banner because apparently it is a rare find in excellent condition.

Thanks.

 

[Neogeo]

Sounds like we are all good now!I was where you are now(not even knowing where to start)If you would like to start looking for artifacts,I send folk beginers sets.some brokes and what not to help ya get the feel of artifacts,and help train the eye.The next batches are goin out around the middle of the month(about the 18th)Shoot me your addy if you are interested...Neo

 

[GopherDaGold]

I believe:

1. They are ignoring those of us posting "what is this item"
2. They are just being smart alek and not answering the question asked by several.


I'm sure that whatever this item is it is cool because someone put it on the banner, but I have NO clue what it is supposed to be or actually is.

I get frustrated as well when folks assume we all know what an item is. I, too would like to know what the item is, and how it was used.
Ahh, I see it was ID'd.

 

[Jonzer]

Fantastic!
Banner!

 

[woody50]

I believe:

1. They are ignoring those of us posting "what is this item"
2. They are just being smart alek and not answering the question asked by several.


I'm sure that whatever this item is it is cool because someone put it on the banner, but I have NO clue what it is supposed to be or actually is.

Only finds that are posted in the "Todays finds" are eligible for the banner.... Things in "What is it" are NOT.
Also although people vote for an object to be placed on the banner, its the moderator(s) who really chooses (I think)...

 

[larson1951]

thanks jonzey
once again sorry for this delay
i'm thinking if all this super wet and cool weather hadn't given me the early blight i don't think i would have that game piece
now the question is; are 122 tomato plants worth that piece? my answer is... YES!
when i went to find more plants this morn the lady at the plant store said "steve, since i know that you give all of your produce away just stop by
on thursday morning and i will give you all the plants i have left as i am closing on july 1rst," she took me in back and showed me over 200 plants and
said, "you can have all of these if you like"....................... sometimes things have a funny way of working out
here is a link to a page of images of some more game pieces......click on the link and go to page 16 also a picture of all of the game pieces i have found in the last 25 years of hunting the surface in my same field
lars

PS: these links are material that the good man named 'COTEAU' found for us

 

[Neogeo]

WOWZERS!!!!!thanx for the look..

 

[N.J.THer]

Lars,
Great find and congrats on the well deserved banner.

I just read the entire post and learned quite a bit. I'm into metal detecting and I've never found an arrowhead but I think I'm going to take my seven year old out in the next week or so. I think she will get a big kick out of it.

Now since I have tomato plants in my backyard I have to go research blight...

Thanks
NJ

 

[musky44]

great find lars!!!! how do u get any work done , with all them artifacts layin around. love lookin at your finds.

 

[Jimmy(PA)]

Amazing find, I would love to find one but I am not familiar with these artifacts at all, god knows how many times I may have walked right past them at old Indian and colonial sites but come on guys, for 1-2k years old that's pretty crappy technology and workmanship considering when you compare it to what was going on in Rome and other regions of the world at that time. Still a rare and great find though.

 

[Tnmountains]

Amazing find, I would love to find one but I am not familiar with these artifacts at all, god knows how many times I may have walked right past them at old Indian and colonial sites but come on guys, for 1-2k years old that's pretty crappy technology and workmanship considering when you compare it to what was going on in Rome and other regions of the world at that time. Still a rare and great find though.

Apples to Oranges. Kinda like comparing the Flintstone's to the Jetson's. Stone age technology was not crappy. It was very successful here from Mastodon's and extinctions on to that buffalo game piece. Rome was only what? 2763 bp. Look on this board and you will see 12,000 + bp items posted made by... man. So while say a Roman coin is a fabulous find and great historic item in the big scheme of things, being man made, it not really that old at all. Though I sure enjoy seeing them posted and learning about them.

 

[Jimmy(PA)]

Amazing find, I would love to find one but I am not familiar with these artifacts at all, god knows how many times I may have walked right past them at old Indian and colonial sites but come on guys, for 1-2k years old that's pretty crappy technology and workmanship considering when you compare it to what was going on in Rome and other regions of the world at that time. Still a rare and great find though.

Apples to Oranges. Kinda like comparing the Flintstone's to the Jetson's. Stone age technology was not crappy. It was very successful here from Mastodon's and extinctions on to that buffalo game piece. Rome was only what? 2763 bp. Look on this board and you will see 12,000 + bp items posted made by... man. So while say a Roman coin is a fabulous find and great historic item in the big scheme of things, being man made, it not really that old at all. Though I sure enjoy seeing them posted and learning about them.

They stated these particular objects where 1,000 to 2,000 years old. So Rome would be the older of the two. Now if it is 12,000 + years I will retract my criticism about the crudity of their skill.

 

[shorelinesearcher]

It is only crude relative to the technology available to the culture. If it were made in Rome at its peak then it would certainly be crude. The technology available to the Roman Empire was a culmination of conquest of many cultures then adapted and refined over thousands of years. The people in the Americas did not have the same opportunities to develop tech as there was no injection of foreign ideas etc. There technology was handed down generation to generation and evolved much slower. So, age is not the determining factor, or shouldn't be in this case. jmho.

 

[jeff a]

thats a killer game piece , have you ever dug below the plow zone to see what turns up