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[0121stockpicker]

OK and where do they get the numbers that state that, did they poll all of NRA members? No member I know supports it including myself....

Now are you calling me naive? I know where NRA gets its money, it gets it from the members in memberships, donations and from the gun manufactures..... It takes money to lobby, fight and win a battle in congress, more power to the NRA I am glad they have the power they do...... I am all for any group that fights to defend the 2nd amendment against attacks from anyone trying to destroy it......

Remember it was not the NRA that started this battle, it was the Democrats, liberals and gun control lobbies that started this battle................ What happen in Sandy Hook though tragic is not the fault of the guns in this country.... You even have a parent of one of the dead children testifying to that.

As long as I can remember guns have always been readily available in this country, you could buy them in any hardware store, a lot of department stores and through the mail, we had rifle teams in schools, you had boy-scouts giving merit badges for shooting yet we did not have mass shootings. Guns are not the problem, it is the moral decay, lack of parental guidance, and the poor mental health care in this country that is the problem.. It is like saying we need to ban large spoons because of all the overweight people in this country...

Do you not understand what a "poll" is? A poll does not mean they have as every single person in a group - that is not a poll. A well done poll is a statistically significant number of people in a given group. And I said 85 percent so yes you and your friends could be part if the 15 percent of members that are against universal background checks - right?

 

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[0121stockpicker]

OK and where do they get the numbers that state that, did they poll all of NRA members? No member I know supports it including myself....

Now are you calling me naive? I know where NRA gets its money, it gets it from the members in memberships, donations and from the gun manufactures..... It takes money to lobby, fight and win a battle in congress, more power to the NRA I am glad they have the power they do...... I am all for any group that fights to defend the 2nd amendment against attacks from anyone trying to destroy it......

Remember it was not the NRA that started this battle, it was the Democrats, liberals and gun control lobbies that started this battle................ What happen in Sandy Hook though tragic is not the fault of the guns in this country.... You even have a parent of one of the dead children testifying to that.

As long as I can remember guns have always been readily available in this country, you could buy them in any hardware store, a lot of department stores and through the mail, we had rifle teams in schools, you had boy-scouts giving merit badges for shooting yet we did not have mass shootings. Guns are not the problem, it is the moral decay, lack of parental guidance, and the poor mental health care in this country that is the problem.. It is like saying we need to ban large spoons because of all the overweight people in this country...

And that's exactly what the NRA wants you to think - mainstream big gun media has done its job on you. That's why their execs make big big bucks. They should open up one of those mega churches down south preach the gun gospel and the upcoming gunpocalypse and pass that basket around. If they were a public company I'd be backing up the truck. Better ad / marketing campaign than coca cola!!

And show me an instance of any democrats seriously proposing repealing the second. That was completely whipped up by NRA and big gun.

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[0121stockpicker]

And the NRA and LaPierre himself supported background checks with "no loopholes" back in 1999 in testimony in front of the senate after columbine.

 

[0121stockpicker]

"Not only are gun owners and non-gun-owners very much aligned in their support for proposals to strengthen U.S. gun laws, but the majority of NRA members are also in favor of many of these policies," Daniel Webster, co-author of the study and director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, said in a statement.

In addition to favoring universal background checks, the majority of NRA members surveyed supported prohibiting people with recent alcohol or drug charges to purchase guns, and 70 percent supported a mandatory minimum of 2 years in prison for selling guns to persons who are not legally allowed to have one.

 

[0121stockpicker]

In his tell-all memoir, Ricochet: Confessions of a Gun Lobbyist, former NRA operative and consultant Richard Feldman argued that the group had degenerated into "a cynical, mercenary political cult," that was "obsessed with wielding power while relentlessly squeezing contributions from its members." Manipulating the fears of impassioned gun owners helped keep their wallets open, and helped to fund the rich pay packages for executives like LaPierre, who pocketed nearly $1 million in 2010.

 

[bevo]

To me it seems obvious why we have the right to bear arms, It saddens me that so many have the wool
pulled over their eyes. It is the left that use's fear as a political weapon, the left that use's tragedy to
further their political aims, the left that says 2+2=3. With out our rights we would not even be discussing
these very important topics. Can we as Americans stand and say" enough is enough this stops now."
Instead they say "give me convenience, give me false hope,built upon obvious lies"

 

[jeff of pa]

I see there is a Rally in Harrisburg in April again (warmer days )
APRIL 23, Second Amend. Rally

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[Rebel - KGC]

In his tell-all memoir, Ricochet: Confessions of a Gun Lobbyist, former NRA operative and consultant Richard Feldman argued that the group had degenerated into "a cynical, mercenary political cult," that was "obsessed with wielding power while relentlessly squeezing contributions from its members." Manipulating the fears of impassioned gun owners helped keep their wallets open, and helped to fund the rich pay packages for executives like LaPierre, who pocketed nearly $1 million in 2010.

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[0121stockpicker]

To me it seems obvious why we have the right to bear arms, It saddens me that so many have the wool
pulled over their eyes. It is the left that use's fear as a political weapon, the left that use's tragedy to
further their political aims, the left that says 2+2=3. With out our rights we would not even be discussing
these very important topics. Can we as Americans stand and say" enough is enough this stops now."
Instead they say "give me convenience, give me false hope,built upon obvious lies"

Why do you think it's others who have had the "wool pulled over their eyes" and not yourself. Can someone have a different view as yours that is just as valid but just different. Wasn't this country founded by men with greatly differing views that came together. What do you think it says about someone when they believe they are always right and everyone else who does not share their view wrong. Something to ponder maybe?

 

[spartacus53]

I see there is a Rally in Harrisburg in April again (warmer days )
APRIL 23, Second Amend. Rally

I'm betting the crowd is mostly made up from CPA's. I'm basing that on the fact it's just one week and one day past the income-tax deadline The 1 and 1 actually symbolize a double barrel shotgun too Very sneaky

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

Constitionaly the fedS have to right to tell the states how, who, and where to sell firearms. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people".no where in the constition does it give the federal government the right to restrict firearms. So it falls to a state level to do so. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

My county did this ASAP. I think they were the 2nd place in the country to act.
http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/susquehanna-county-votes-to-defy-any-gun-restrictions-1.1451095

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

Why do you think it's others who have had the "wool pulled over their eyes" and not yourself. Can someone have a different view as yours that is just as valid but just different. Wasn't this country founded by men with greatly differing views that came together. What do you think it says about someone when they believe they are always right and everyone else who does not share their view wrong. Something to ponder maybe?

You are correct in some ways. Many of the founding fathers were atheists this country was not founded on Christian principles, it was founded on everyone can pratice their religion or lack of how they want. They did intend on the constition only being white land owners, how ever they did not specify that. So in modern day the other amendmets are a result of narrow mindedness not of necissity. Hispanics and Aisan have constitional rights now without amendments .....if they dont then why are we treating them like they do?


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[Treasure_Hunter]

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[Frankn]

I think Gilberton is just a slice of the old AMERICAN PIE. PEOPLE THAT PAID THERE DUES AND WANT A RECITE. FRANK...