More 18th century pub finds

[arbuckle]

An hour to kill always seems to turn up something! I’ve been working my way through surrounding woods and my yard near an old pub.

1900s Elgin pocket watch, likely filled 14k gold. I haven’t been able to remove the back cover yet for a serial number.

Jeweled fancy locket, nice weight to it. Sadly was empty.

DOG LICENSE NO. 21060, Philadelphia County, dated 1954

1917 Wheat with a nice olive green

Old Girl Scout pin/badge

Silver is silver

Ansen tie clip

Scratched up Rosy, but silver is silver

Neat old lighter, TEECO brand

Button, unsure of age, seems old

 

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[Chilli]

An hour to kill always seems to turn up something! I’ve been working my way through surrounding woods and my yard near an old pub.

1900s Elgin pocket watch, likely filled 14k gold. I haven’t been able to remove the back cover yet for a serial number.
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Jeweled fancy locket, nice weight to it. Sadly was empty.
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DOG LICENSE NO. 21060, Philadelphia County, dated 1954
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1917 Wheat with a nice olive green
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Old Girl Scout pin/badge
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Silver is silver
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Ayer tie clip
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Scratched up Rosy, but silver is silver
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Neat old lighter, TEECO brand
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Button, unsure of age, seems old
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Cool, iv always hoped to find an in tact fob watch, working or not, but only ever found pieces of them.

 

[tamrock]

Can you get the back cover off that pocket watch? Odds are it's a goldfill case, which still would have some value in scrap gold. It's a neat find and you gotta think someone was pretty bummed the day they lost it.

 

[arbuckle]

Can you get the back cover off that pocket watch? Odds are it's a goldfill case, which still would have some value in scrap gold. It's a neat find and you gotta think someone was pretty bummed the day they lost it.

I actually got the cover off last night. I ended up just prying it off since the movement is guaranteed toast and the threads weren’t budging. Got a serial number off of the movement as well as the case. It’s 10k filled gold, watch looks to have been made about 1906. Still some cleanup to do but this was a quality piece in its day.

 

[oldmxrat]

Some good finds there, love the pocket watch, congrats!

 

[Digger RJ]

An hour to kill always seems to turn up something! I’ve been working my way through surrounding woods and my yard near an old pub.

1900s Elgin pocket watch, likely filled 14k gold. I haven’t been able to remove the back cover yet for a serial number.
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Jeweled fancy locket, nice weight to it. Sadly was empty.
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DOG LICENSE NO. 21060, Philadelphia County, dated 1954
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1917 Wheat with a nice olive green
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Old Girl Scout pin/badge
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Silver is silver
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Ansen tie clip
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Scratched up Rosy, but silver is silver
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Neat old lighter, TEECO brand
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Button, unsure of age, seems old
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Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[tamrock]

I actually got the cover off last night. I ended up just prying it off since the movement is guaranteed toast and the threads weren’t budging. Got a serial number off of the movement as well as the case. It’s 10k filled gold, watch looks to have been made about 1906. Still some cleanup to do but this was a quality piece in its day.

There is info online on figuring out the weight of scrap gold based on it being a 20 year sz. 16 10k case. It's seems you might get an idea by weighing the case only and figure 1/20 of the total weight to get a round about figuring on how much in total 10k gold it would have.

 

[Tony in SC]

Looks like a Lord Elgin 05/06. It's great you could find the time!

 

[Hunk-a-lead]

An hour to kill always seems to turn up something! I’ve been working my way through surrounding woods and my yard near an old pub.

1900s Elgin pocket watch, likely filled 14k gold. I haven’t been able to remove the back cover yet for a serial number.
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Jeweled fancy locket, nice weight to it. Sadly was empty.
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DOG LICENSE NO. 21060, Philadelphia County, dated 1954
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1917 Wheat with a nice olive green
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Old Girl Scout pin/badge
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Silver is silver
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Ansen tie clip
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Scratched up Rosy, but silver is silver
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Neat old lighter, TEECO brand
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Button, unsure of age, seems old
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great saves all around, wtg and thanks for posting

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

You're fortunate that the pocketwatch still had the hands and porcelain face intact, I've never found one complete with the hands. Based on what you've found so far, it looks like you'll be hunting that area for years to come.

Great pics too, a very interesting post to read.
- Dave

 

[tamrock]

Looks like a Lord Elgin 05/06. It's great you could find the time!

So it's a ladies watch then.

 

[arbuckle]

You're fortunate that the pocketwatch still had the hands and porcelain face intact, I've never found one complete with the hands. Based on what you've found so far, it looks like you'll be hunting that area for years to come.

Great pics too, a very interesting post to read.
- Dave

Thanks Dave! It still had the glass on it that saved the hands, which are apparently pure gold. This area is a literal treasure trove. I’ll need to get a few permissions but have high hopes from the number of early 1800s houses around me.

 

[Tony in SC]

So it's a ladies watch then.

The 05/06 was the year, it should be a size 16. Sorry , I got in a hurry.

 

[arbuckle]

Did some more cleaning and the dial is beautiful. A few cracks but the gold is coming right through. On the back case were revealed service dates and the technician’s initials.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

A very nice bunch of finds - congrats !

 

[Tony in SC]

It's great to find one with all that info! Most of the ones that I have found were junk.

 

[tamrock]

So it's a ladies watch then.

I guess it is not a ladies size being a 16 size, which is the regulation size for a railroad watch. Being you can see the serial number I looked it up.

From the American Horology Archive:​

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Elgin National Watch Co.​

Grade: 291​

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	12321633
Grade:	291
Model:	7
Class:	110
Estimated Production Year:	1906
Run Quantity:	1,000
Grade/Model Run:	41 of 424
Grade/Model Total Production:	1,487,000
Variant Est. Production:	1,462,000 (16S-M7-7J-ONP)
Size:	16s
Jewels:	7j

 

[Trezurehunter]

Great variety of finds, I like that Elgin pocket watch.

 

[arbuckle]

I guess it is not a ladies size being a 16 size, which is the regulation size for a railroad watch. Being you can see the serial number I looked it up.

From the American Horology Archive:​

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Elgin National Watch Co.​

Grade: 291​

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	12321633
Grade:	291
Model:	7
Class:	110
Estimated Production Year:	1906
Run Quantity:	1,000
Grade/Model Run:	41 of 424
Grade/Model Total Production:	1,487,000
Variant Est. Production:	1,462,000 (16S-M7-7J-ONP)
Size:	16s
Jewels:	7j

I looked it up as well! One of my coolest finds yet based on the amount of information it’s been able to give. Wishing I was a bit more patient or sent it to someone to remove the cover, but hey it’s a really cool find regardless. The case was not really save-able to begin with. I’m curious if somewhere exist records, based on the serial numbers and service dates, that could find the original owner.

 

[tamrock]

I looked it up as well! One of my coolest finds yet based on the amount of information it’s been able to give. Wishing I was a bit more patient or sent it to someone to remove the cover, but hey it’s a really cool find regardless. The case was not really save-able to begin with. I’m curious if somewhere exist records, based on the serial numbers and service dates, that could find the original owner.

I wouldn't think so based on the serial number. If it had been monogrammed with enough info, then maybe. All I can say about the original owner of that watch is they were probably pretty bummed after it went missing so long ago.