military shield please help ID

[boondocker]

Found this in my front yard this morning, its 1-3/8" long and 7/8" wide at the top. It has some green and silver paint on it. The back looks like it was a pin back. I haven't found any markings on it. It looks a lot like a military uniform DI. Any help would be great, thanks Dean

 

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[Montana Jim]

Would like to see the back...

It looks more like a belt tip than a crest.

 

[johnnyi]

boondocker, these are harness related and usually have two pointed prongs on the back. After I get some work done I'll pull a few out which match your's and you can see what the backs looked like. They are neat I think, and have usaually been found at colonial and post colonial sites.

 

[boondocker]

here is the back, I thought I posted 4 pix on the first post but it didnt come thru.

 

[CRUSADER]

looks like a saddle shield

 

[Montana Jim]

Definitely leather ornamentation.

 

[Silver Searcher]

looks like a saddle shield

Yes hart shaped harness sheild

SS.

 

[allen]

very interesting find !

 

[johnnyi]

boondocker, I pulled out a few of the harness shields I've dug to give you an idea of the variety of shapes and the way they were mounted.

 

[boondocker]

THATS IT!!!!! its a saddle shield, thanks for all the great info. Dean

 

[BuckleBoy]

The proper name for this piece is not "saddle shield" or "harness shield." Saddle shields actually had a slot in them, and they are larger pieces that went on the Saddle. I get no hits for the term "harness shield."

This piece is actually a harness boss.

I ID'ed my own find after getting no hits in the "what is it" section in this post:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,118603.0.html

Photo of Gen. Sherman on his horse:







I try to use the term correctly, since this is not a piece that went on the saddle!



Either way, there's your ID.



Best Wishes,



Buckles

 

[CRUSADER]

The proper name for this piece is not "saddle shield" or "harness shield." Saddle shields actually had a slot in them, and they are larger pieces that went on the Saddle. I get no hits for the term "harness shield."

This piece is actually a harness boss.

I ID'ed my own find after getting no hits in the "what is it" section in this post:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,118603.0.html

Photo of Gen. Sherman on his horse:









I try to use the term correctly, since this is not a piece that went on the saddle!



Either way, there's your ID.



Best Wishes,



Buckles

just call it horse furniture

 

[BuckleBoy]

just call it horse furniture

Well, I could call half of what I find "horse furniture" and that would tell absolutely Nothing about its specific use. Maybe I could call every button or Civil War belt buckle I find "people furniture" and let it go at that.

You can call it horse furniture if you like--just don't call it a saddle shield, since it did not go on a saddle.


-Buckles

 

[CRUSADER]

just call it horse furniture

Well, I could call half of what I find "horse furniture" and that would tell absolutely Nothing about its specific use. Maybe I could call every button or Civil War belt buckle I find "people furniture" and let it go at that.

You can call it horse furniture if you like--just don't call it a saddle shield, since it did not go on a saddle.


-Buckles

In the UK these went on belts, maybe its a sexfoil? (other than it would need to be Late Medieval)

Point is, it can attach to a piece of leather, anywhere on the horse, so safer to say furniture or decor.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I dont know what to call it but if you search you will find there have been others posted here. Nice find.

 

[CRUSADER]

I dont know what to call it but if you search you will find there have been others posted here. Nice find.

Yeap, many posted in the past.

I have found many variants, but they were used on many different pieces of leather, I have seen some on the martingale of heavy horses.

 

[boondocker]

thanks for all the great help. this is half the fun trying to find out what you find, I love this hobby Dean

 

[AU24K]

Buckles,
I thought I'd seen that picture of Sherman somewhere before. I found it again in a book I have of Matthew Brady photographs. Thanks for waking up an old man's memory.
Scott

 

[Garabaldi]

Sweat find boondocker. I wish I had a front yard like yours. Keep hunting.

 

[IronSpike]

Welcome to Tnet boondocker

That's a nice harness boss shield I've only found one, but it's one of my favorite relic finds.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,221039.0.html