✅ SOLVED Military? Coin? Button? Cut Out? Piece of metal???

[cdsieg]

Found this on a trial in East Texas, where I have found some military stuff in the past. This is about the size of a nickle (perhaps a little bigger and thicker) it is two to three times heavier than a nickle.

I used a microscope camera to take the photos, so it is as close as I can get. I don't see any defining details, but maybe someone out there knows something more!

Thank You in advance for your time?

 

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[QUICKSILVER (appletree)]

its lead

 

[duggap]

It looks like a lead seal. See if you can find any iron on the side where the wire was attached.

 

[scratcher]

Looks like chewed on lead

 

[Diggin-N-Dumps]

maybe a bale seal?

 

[pepperj]

What's the other side look like?

 

[DCMatt]

Hand made gaming token or poker chip. Maybe made from a flattened pistol ball. I have a couple CW era ones I've found here in Virginia. One made from a 58 cal and the other from a 69 cal bullet.

Men used whatever they on hand had to entertain themselves. In camp, boredom was a big enemy.

DCMatt

 

[cdsieg]

Thank you for taking the time to look at my post and responding! I am sorry about not providing good pictures to begin with! I do have both front and back in my post, but when I was just looking at my own photos I couldn't tell the difference! So here are a few more, face of nickle side A back of nickle side B. Thanks again!

 

[cdsieg]

Thank you for your comment, I don't see anything that looks like iron, it all looks pretty much the same. I am going to run it under my detector again and see what number it came up as, but I know iron wasn't one of them. Thanks again!

 

[cdsieg]

Hand made gaming token or poker chip. Maybe made from a flattened pistol ball. I have a couple CW era ones I've found here in Virginia. One made from a 58 cal and the other from a 69 cal bullet.

Men used whatever they on hand had to entertain themselves. In camp, boredom was a big enemy.



DCMatt

Your answer is definitely more exciting than the rest of them! It also makes more sense to me just because it seems too symmetrical to just be a piece of lead. The markings also seem to be placed on purpose, I also thought of the chewed lead idea too, but the marks don't look like teeth marks to me. Thank you for taking the time to reply!

 

[ARC]

I agree with DC Matt on this...
This was a hunk of boredom lead...
This could remain a "mystery piece"...

This could even be Native American boredom as well... imo.

 

[cdsieg]

maybe a bale seal?

I will have to googlel that, I am not sure I know what that is! Thank you for taking time to reply, and I will do some research!

 

[cdsieg]

Looks like chewed on lead

I also need to do some research on what a lead seal is! I love metal detecting for many reasons, but learning things about our past is awesome!

 

[ARC]

I have to add... this is Not a bale seal... imo

 

[cdsieg]

I have to add... this is Not a bale seal... imo

I appreciate your input, but it would help me more if you could say why or why not! I have been reading about them and trying to figure things out, any info you have could help me learn more!

 

[ARC]

I appreciate your input, but it would help me more if you could say why or why not! I have been reading about them and trying to figure things out, any info you have could help me learn more!

Well... Like I stated with the abbreviation "imo" = in my opinion...
My opinion is based upon just that... my opinion.

Sometimes I have a "sense" ... call it a sixth sense if you like... but none the less... its a sense.

But... I will also add...
Theory must never contradict fact...

From what I have seen of bale seals... which is a huge amount... mostly obviously in pictures... I have noted that the "stamps / marks" on the seals themselves are a "finished" purpose work of art / mark...

Where as your piece appears to have been "tooled" mark by mark... by hand.
THUS...
Making your mystery piece less likely IMO of being a "bale / bag seal".

 

[scratcher]

These finds are fairly common on furtrade sites. Why did Native Americans, frontiersman,soldiers,etc. chew on lead? Boredom, to make gaming pieces, mouth feel, who knows... Cool find!

 

[cdsieg]

Well... Like I stated with the abbreviation "imo" = in my opinion...
My opinion is based upon just that... my opinion.

Sometimes I have a "sense" ... call it a sixth sense if you like... but none the less... its a sense.

But... I will also add...
Theory must never contradict fact...

From what I have seen of bale seals... which is a huge amount... mostly obviously in pictures... I have noted that the "stamps / marks" on the seals themselves are a "finished" purpose work of art / mark...

Where as your piece appears to have been "tooled" mark by mark... by hand.
THUS...
Making your mystery piece less likely IMO of being a "bale / bag seal".

Thank You for the additional information, it was very helpful. Even the IMO, I had no idea what that meant! LOL

 

[cdsieg]

Thank You every one, I will consider this solved or at least as solved as it will be! I learned a lot of new things from this find, with your help! Thanks again!

 

[duggap]

I submit that the old "bite the bullet" saying was just that, a saying. Take a Minie ball or a round ball and put it in your mouth and try to chew it. Good luck not breaking a tooth.