Manticore VS Equinox 900

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For those of you who have used both machines do you find the extra 800 dollars for the Manticore to be justified? I am in the market and intend to order very, very soon. Unfortunately, I have to purchase from Cabela's (I've saved 1,000 bucks in gift cards) so looks like 1,000 for the Nox and 1800 for the Manticore. Something I think would justify the price is digging less trash, that's really the goal, right? I detect mainly old homes looking for old silver coins and also the beach but I'm in Mn so no salt water, although you may be surprised the amount of interference we get in freshwater from the highly mineralized black sands (AT Pro was horrible at the beach, CTX was OK). One other thing I find the most valuable in a detector is the ability to find treasure next to garbage (silver rosie with a couple nails). I have binge watched every YouTube video; read every thread I could find and most of them are pretty old which kills me because I heard the Manticore had a rocky start but after recent updates it's an absolute BEAST. Any truth to that? Let me know your thoughts, I'm dying to get back out there!!
 

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IMO, it's hard to place a dollar value difference in the two. Both are excellent machines in most venues. I would say the Manticore gets the edge, but, whether that is worth the extra money is hard to quantify. I guess if you could find something valuable just out of reach of the 900 it would be worth the extra money, but, will you find items like that consistently, or, in enough volume to justify it....hard to say. If I was starting from scratch, I would get the Manticore. If I'm upgrading from a 600/800 and have many coils for them, I'd get the 900. To me, there isn't enough of a difference to justify the extra expense at this point, when you figure in all the coils I would want to use.
 

IMO, it's hard to place a dollar value difference in the two. Both are excellent machines in most venues. I would say the Manticore gets the edge, but, whether that is worth the extra money is hard to quantify. I guess if you could find something valuable just out of reach of the 900 it would be worth the extra money, but, will you find items like that consistently, or, in enough volume to justify it....hard to say. If I was starting from scratch, I would get the Manticore. If I'm upgrading from a 600/800 and have many coils for them, I'd get the 900. To me, there isn't enough of a difference to justify the extra expense at this point, when you figure in all the coils I would want to use.
The price is a tough pill to swallow. I can get the Equinox for almost nothing out of pocket with my gift cards whereas I would be out almost 1,000 bucks out of pocket with the manticore. I did have a CTX but sold it so I am not carrying over any coils or anything like that.
 

Well...I have an EQ 800 and a 900, a friend of mine has a Manticore, all are really good machines, having said that, my "Go to" machine is a Nokta/Mako "Legend. I think around $750 with 2 coils, and more options then I know what to do with. They are all good, really, but the MOST bang for the buck?
 

Well...I have an EQ 800 and a 900, a friend of mine has a Manticore, all are really good machines, having said that, my "Go to" machine is a Nokta/Mako "Legend. I think around $750 with 2 coils, and more options then I know what to do with. They are all good, really, but the MOST bang for the buck?
That's the question right?? Interesting your go to is the Nokta, I don't know anyone he uses one but I've heard they're very good machines!
 

Having owned the 800 and 900 and using the Manticore for several months now with many hours operating all three of them, I'm sure happy that I have the latter. If someone offered me the cost difference and the 900 for my Manticore, I would definitely say no way.

I started the hobby over five years ago with a White's Spectra V3i. Loved it and it found many nice objects and coins. But the chassis was clunky and not being water sealed were disappointing. Great electronics in an outdated platform. I did like the target pinpointing toggle switch at the thumb of the handle.

The 800 was a great step up and I found so much with it. I bought Steve's carbon fiber rods and all three coils over time. I fell for the Manticore hype and couldn't wait to get my hands on it. I put down the full deposit and waited in the pre-order line. For months. I actually became a bit sour with Minelab and the Manticore roll out. It felt like the Microsoft vaporware software updates I used to wait for decades ago. Then they rolled out the 900 while we were still waiting for Manticore back orders to get filled! I thought this was bad business. I still liked the company products, but I lost patience, and cancelled my order for the Manticore and bought the 900, happy to pocket some of my cash back.

The 900 was a noticeable step up from the 800. Not only sens, but also EMI rejection. It was much quieter and more stable around power lines and cell phone towers. And I could use my 800 coils. Really no gripes with the unit.

Although I am foremost a audio signal detectorist, I still wanted the Manticore target screen. I guess being around musicians for so long, being a serious audiophile, and a live music photographer for a dozen years, has made me sensitive to pitch and tone. I hunt sparse early colonial sites as I live in the oldest English settlement in New York State. I'm not adverse to iron, I don't have to pick through nail beds and modern trash. In fact, I welcome deep iron signals, as early nails often key me into former home sites where no visible indications remain on the forest floor. Early settlers must have reused their nails or melted them back down since I usually find broken frags of nails or very small whole finish nails and tacks. When I get close to old home sites, I can hear the deep weak hits of these iron pieces and know what they are without digging them up. It's like the machine wakes up and stirs a little to let me know they were there. How can I be so confident that I am not missing targets by passes over these weak signals? By trial and error having dug up numerous ones.

The Manticore boasts the ability to put more power to the head and I take full advantage of that by running with the sens pushed to 28. In the forest without power lines or heavily mineralized soil, 28 runs stable for me. Sometimes I push to 30. I like the screen centerline for valuable metals and target size. Sure, larger iron targets at depth do false from time to time. I see the software update addresses this by providing the red visual, but I haven't downloaded it yet. The things that annoy me most are pre-1960 paper shotgun shell bases that have rotted off the paper. Depending on the size of the brass base, can range from a target ID of 15-40. That covers a wide range of potential targets, but I've learned the audio signal for them. I still dig up many, but I usually bet myself they are shells before I dig and am almost always right.

One area the Mantiore excels for me is EMI rejection. I have a 1700's site around the largest cell tower in my region. My only compromise is having to back my sens down to 22 -25. I recently pulled up a nice 1787 CT copper from over 6" deep in the direct shadow of the tower. I don't have to force cycle the noise rejection either.

Long story short, my time is limited for how often I can get out detecting. I go out with a full backpack with food and water into the woods for 6-8 hour sessions. Sometimes it is an hour hike into where I want to go. I carry extra batteries and the Power Nox module because running the Manticore at 28 eats the battery up within 6 hours. So when I'm out there, I want the best machine possible in my hands to give me the greatest odds for discovery. The only thing nagging me is that I wish I could put some hours on a 3030 to see how it compares against a Manticore. It would have to be a big difference to interest me because I like how the Manticore breaks down into my back pack. I could easily live with the 900, but I wouldn't be totally happy knowing the Manticore exists. I like keeping in the Minelab series because I know how they function and react to various metals and conditions.
 

Having owned the 800 and 900 and using the Manticore for several months now with many hours operating all three of them, I'm sure happy that I have the latter. If someone offered me the cost difference and the 900 for my Manticore, I would definitely say no way.

I started the hobby over five years ago with a White's Spectra V3i. Loved it and it found many nice objects and coins. But the chassis was clunky and not being water sealed were disappointing. Great electronics in an outdated platform. I did like the target pinpointing toggle switch at the thumb of the handle.

The 800 was a great step up and I found so much with it. I bought Steve's carbon fiber rods and all three coils over time. I fell for the Manticore hype and couldn't wait to get my hands on it. I put down the full deposit and waited in the pre-order line. For months. I actually became a bit sour with Minelab and the Manticore roll out. It felt like the Microsoft vaporware software updates I used to wait for decades ago. Then they rolled out the 900 while we were still waiting for Manticore back orders to get filled! I thought this was bad business. I still liked the company products, but I lost patience, and cancelled my order for the Manticore and bought the 900, happy to pocket some of my cash back.

The 900 was a noticeable step up from the 800. Not only sens, but also EMI rejection. It was much quieter and more stable around power lines and cell phone towers. And I could use my 800 coils. Really no gripes with the unit.

Although I am foremost a audio signal detectorist, I still wanted the Manticore target screen. I guess being around musicians for so long, being a serious audiophile, and a live music photographer for a dozen years, has made me sensitive to pitch and tone. I hunt sparse early colonial sites as I live in the oldest English settlement in New York State. I'm not adverse to iron, I don't have to pick through nail beds and modern trash. In fact, I welcome deep iron signals, as early nails often key me into former home sites where no visible indications remain on the forest floor. Early settlers must have reused their nails or melted them back down since I usually find broken frags of nails or very small whole finish nails and tacks. When I get close to old home sites, I can hear the deep weak hits of these iron pieces and know what they are without digging them up. It's like the machine wakes up and stirs a little to let me know they were there. How can I be so confident that I am not missing targets by passes over these weak signals? By trial and error having dug up numerous ones.

The Manticore boasts the ability to put more power to the head and I take full advantage of that by running with the sens pushed to 28. In the forest without power lines or heavily mineralized soil, 28 runs stable for me. Sometimes I push to 30. I like the screen centerline for valuable metals and target size. Sure, larger iron targets at depth do false from time to time. I see the software update addresses this by providing the red visual, but I haven't downloaded it yet. The things that annoy me most are pre-1960 paper shotgun shell bases that have rotted off the paper. Depending on the size of the brass base, can range from a target ID of 15-40. That covers a wide range of potential targets, but I've learned the audio signal for them. I still dig up many, but I usually bet myself they are shells before I dig and am almost always right.

One area the Mantiore excels for me is EMI rejection. I have a 1700's site around the largest cell tower in my region. My only compromise is having to back my sens down to 22 -25. I recently pulled up a nice 1787 CT copper from over 6" deep in the direct shadow of the tower. I don't have to force cycle the noise rejection either.

Long story short, my time is limited for how often I can get out detecting. I go out with a full backpack with food and water into the woods for 6-8 hour sessions. Sometimes it is an hour hike into where I want to go. I carry extra batteries and the Power Nox module because running the Manticore at 28 eats the battery up within 6 hours. So when I'm out there, I want the best machine possible in my hands to give me the greatest odds for discovery. The only thing nagging me is that I wish I could put some hours on a 3030 to see how it compares against a Manticore. It would have to be a big difference to interest me because I like how the Manticore breaks down into my back pack. I could easily live with the 900, but I wouldn't be totally happy knowing the Manticore exists. I like keeping in the Minelab series because I know how they function and react to various metals and conditions.
The CTX is an awesome machine, that's what I had most recently. Guessing the Manticore is right on par with it.
 

The CTX is an awesome machine, that's what I had most recently. Guessing the Manticore is right on par with it.
I guessing some of its cost and size is tied up in the GPS section. This doesn't interest me, because I will return to sites and walk completely different patterns. It's interesting how sites keep producing.
 

I guessing some of its cost and size is tied up in the GPS section. This doesn't interest me, because I will return to sites and walk completely different patterns. It's interesting how sites keep producing.
Very, very heavy machine too.
 

Anyone else want to weigh in? Just watched a YouTube video of a guy saying he was done using his 900🤣
 

One comment...if you buy the 900, you will forever wonder, "What would the Manticore find?"
 

Since the latest update the 900 is an excellent detector.I also have a Legend but prefer the 900 even though the Legend is a good machine, I don't have any time on the Manticore but will be using it soon and I will post results and opinions.
 

I did all the explorer versions and still own 3, including the CTX.
I switched to the Deus 1 then 2.5 yrs ago to the Deus 2.
Detectors are like the big 3 auto manufacturers.
Many folks have the brand loyalty issue, and that's understandable.

I can only speak for myself on this one very imperative part of owning any detector.

A person has to put in the time on that machine.
I have a equation New machine =1000 hrs of digging.
Then still I can be learning as it comes down depending to the site/conditions.

Testing a new machine out on a new site isn't accomplishing anything except going out detecting with a new toy on a new site.

Going to the hardest hit site that one has in their inventory, a site that has been detected with every other machine the person has owned many times.
This is true test if the new toy is worth its salt.
These sites should be undisturbed soils as grass, hay, no till, bush, pasture. This cuts down on the various reasons why a person might dig more recoveries.

I have sites where I can go over the same dirt, with the same machine, and program.
One trip 1 or 2 nonferrous targets. Next trip a dozen targets. Same small 30x50 ft square, so it makes me wonder. The site visits were just a few days apart..
 

Since the latest update the 900 is an excellent detector.I also have a Legend but prefer the 900 even though the Legend is a good machine, I don't have any time on the Manticore but will be using it soon and I will post results and opinions.
Excited to hear what you think!!
 

I did all the explorer versions and still own 3, including the CTX.
I switched to the Deus 1 then 2.5 yrs ago to the Deus 2.
Detectors are like the big 3 auto manufacturers.
Many folks have the brand loyalty issue, and that's understandable.

I can only speak for myself on this one very imperative part of owning any detector.

A person has to put in the time on that machine.
I have a equation New machine =1000 hrs of digging.
Then still I can be learning as it comes down depending to the site/conditions.

Testing a new machine out on a new site isn't accomplishing anything except going out detecting with a new toy on a new site.

Going to the hardest hit site that one has in their inventory, a site that has been detected with every other machine the person has owned many times.
This is true test if the new toy is worth its salt.
These sites should be undisturbed soils as grass, hay, no till, bush, pasture. This cuts down on the various reasons why a person might dig more recoveries.

I have sites where I can go over the same dirt, with the same machine, and program.
One trip 1 or 2 nonferrous targets. Next trip a dozen targets. Same small 30x50 ft square, so it makes me wonder. The site visits were just a few days apart..
I've always wondered if soil conditions changing is the reason some people "find stuff their previous detector missed"? I feel i have much better luck when the soil is moist or wet.
 

Before you buy a Manticore, go and download the detector's manual and read through it. Make sure you want to bite that off before you chew it.
 

Something I think would justify the price is digging less trash, that's really the goal, right?

You will always dig trash. If you're not digging some trash, you're missing out on gold. Will you dig fewer pulltabs and can slaw with an $1800 metal detector over a $250 one? Doubtful. The only way to dig less trash is to forget about finding gold and ignore those lower tones. Just the way it is...

There's no shortcut in this hobby. Pay your dues, do the research and you will be rewarded. Spending thousands on a metal detector won't help if you don't do those two things.
 

You will always dig trash. If you're not digging some trash, you're missing out on gold. Will you dig fewer pulltabs and can slaw with an $1800 metal detector over a $250 one? Doubtful. The only way to dig less trash is to forget about finding gold and ignore those lower tones. Just the way it is...

There's no shortcut in this hobby. Pay your dues, do the research and you will be rewarded. Spending thousands on a metal detector won't help if you don't do those

You will always dig trash. If you're not digging some trash, you're missing out on gold. Will you dig fewer pulltabs and can slaw with an $1800 metal detector over a $250 one? Doubtful. The only way to dig less trash is to forget about finding gold and ignore those lower tones. Just the way it is...

There's no shortcut in this hobby. Pay your dues, do the research and you will be rewarded. Spending thousands on a metal detector won't help if you don't do those two things.
I've done that. After spending thousands of dollars and hours with the CTX I'm not new to the hobby, was simply wondering if people who have used both the 900 and Manticore find the Manticore to be 800 dollars better. Also I respectfully disagree on the digging the same amount of trash with a 200 dollar detector vs one that can be thousands, the advances in audio and target identification have helped curb that immensely. With my CTX I dug much less trash and found way more good targets than I did with my previous AT Pro that I had way more time on than the CTX. I had to sell the CTX because I ended up in a pinch and needed the money, now looking to get back into the hobby. Appreciate your input.
 

You dug less trash and missed more of the good stuff by trusting your detector's target identification. When in doubt, dig it out. I've never had a problem with digging too much trash with my AT Pro. It's only when you get gold fever that trash becomes a problem...
 

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