Tom_in_CA
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pjduff, I think I see my lack of finding this info: In Indiana (as in some other states also), the term "DNR" ("department of Natural Resources") is used as the title to the State Parks. Yet in other states, it's the "State Parks". CA state parks, for example calls themselves the CA state parks dept, not CA DNR.
So thank you for finding that for me. Ok, now to comment on that:
The Clifty falls brochure could be said to apply to just that one park. But as for the other link you give (and going to page 8 as you say), does seem to be d*mming info
I bet the way such a rule got in their rule-book no doubt, is that years ago, people went asking "can we detect?". Hence leading to a rule to "address the pressing issue". But in any case, it's there now. I notice that it ALLOWS detecting on sandy beaches. Hmmm, so jkoaltrades info that they are "not allowed", is therefore not entirely true. Hmmm.. And even as you say, detectors are sometimes seen in state parks, and no one seems to care (so long as their not being a nuisance, leaving holes, or bother something historic?).
As far as the part about: ".... as approved by an authorized representative ...", I had to chuckle at that. I mean, seriously, is someone going to come up to "card" you and say: " excuse me, which *authorized representative" said you could do this evil activity?". I mean, seriously now
CA also has this verbage (it's on the FMDAC state-by-state listing, not sure if it's in actual state-of-CA laws/rules). It too says "with permission from park office". Yet I can tell you for a fact that you can detect state beaches here till you're blue in the face, and never have anyone to bother you, or question you. And no, none of us goes "asking at the park office" either.
I'm sure that such verbage gets put in to rules lists, as the "safe" thing to put in, decades ago when some desk-bound bureaucrat is faced with answering the "can I detect?" question. Since, of course, each park or beach might have differences in them (breeding rare salamanders on some certain beach at midnight on a certain night of the year, etc...) well , sure, they can say "check at the kiosk". So too might that be their answer if I say "is it alright if I fly frisbees?", they might say "with permission" or "check with the park you arrive at", etc... Yet truth-be-told, if you just flew the frickin' frisbee, would anyone have cared less? No. Of course not. So long as you're not being a nuisance and aiming it at people's heads on purpose, etc....
pjduff, I think I see my lack of finding this info: In Indiana (as in some other states also), the term "DNR" ("department of Natural Resources") is used as the title to the State Parks. Yet in other states, it's the "State Parks". CA state parks, for example calls themselves the CA state parks dept, not CA DNR.
So thank you for finding that for me. Ok, now to comment on that:
The Clifty falls brochure could be said to apply to just that one park. But as for the other link you give (and going to page 8 as you say), does seem to be d*mming info
I bet the way such a rule got in their rule-book no doubt, is that years ago, people went asking "can we detect?". Hence leading to a rule to "address the pressing issue". But in any case, it's there now. I notice that it ALLOWS detecting on sandy beaches. Hmmm, so jkoaltrades info that they are "not allowed", is therefore not entirely true. Hmmm.. And even as you say, detectors are sometimes seen in state parks, and no one seems to care (so long as their not being a nuisance, leaving holes, or bother something historic?). As far as the part about: ".... as approved by an authorized representative ...", I had to chuckle at that. I mean, seriously, is someone going to come up to "card" you and say: " excuse me, which *authorized representative" said you could do this evil activity?". I mean, seriously now
CA also has this verbage (it's on the FMDAC state-by-state listing, not sure if it's in actual state-of-CA laws/rules). It too says "with permission from park office". Yet I can tell you for a fact that you can detect state beaches here till you're blue in the face, and never have anyone to bother you, or question you. And no, none of us goes "asking at the park office" either. I'm sure that such verbage gets put in to rules lists, as the "safe" thing to put in, decades ago when some desk-bound bureaucrat is faced with answering the "can I detect?" question. Since, of course, each park or beach might have differences in them (breeding rare salamanders on some certain beach at midnight on a certain night of the year, etc...) well , sure, they can say "check at the kiosk". So too might that be their answer if I say "is it alright if I fly frisbees?", they might say "with permission" or "check with the park you arrive at", etc... Yet truth-be-told, if you just flew the frickin' frisbee, would anyone have cared less? No. Of course not. So long as you're not being a nuisance and aiming it at people's heads on purpose, etc....
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