LUE MAP THEORY, MAYBE SOME CONTEXT

[mdog]

That says Historia Tolteca and from a brief review, explains the history of Toltecs, not Aztecs, although it was written by Aztecs. The Toltecs were almost extinct, if not completely extinct, when the Aztecs got to Tenochtitlan. They are 2 different peoples. So....Im confused

I dont see gold in the picture unfortunately. The Aztecs prized feathers, which I do see in the picture.
So, IF the Aztecs came from the American southwest, then I have a couple questions. We have zero recognized Aztec sculptures here in the US (well, maybe this head is....but it looks nothing like real authenticated Aztec sculptures in Mx), so...... between AZ and Tenochtitlan somebody had to have taught them how to make sculptures, pyramids and the major construction projects they engaged in. Who? We, as far as I know, dont have any Aztec pyramid false-starts like we do in Egypt. Egypt is replete with half built pyramids they had to stop construction on because their geometry was off. Again, as far as I know, the Aztecs went from zero to perfect in short order.
Who showed them?
Someone would've had to have introduced them to ripping hearts out for rain between here and there too. Who? Honest question!

We can follow European, or Chinese or, etc.. construction tech and see how they progressed from huts to castles. Aztecs went from zero, to pyramids bigger than Egypts in a very short time. Who taught them?
Does learning about pyramid construction just occur to a race when travelling large distances? Why didnt they build pyramids here? Why dont other natives ingegenous to North America rip out hearts for rain?

This isnt sarcasm....its just how my brain fleshes things out. Sorry if this sounds offensive or rude. I dont mean it to be. Just trying to reason my way through this......I WANT it to make sense.

Here's a link that might interest you.

From the Mississippi to Mexico -- The Great Migration of the Aztecs!

 

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[mdog]

In this excerpt from "The Treasure of the Valley of Secrets" Karl von Mueller writes,

"At about this very same time, Hardrock Hammond had come into possession of the LUE map and several of us were busy copying it (it had to be returned to the owner after we had copied it.) and, although we had no idea whatever then that the LUE map was a treasure map, and we were occupied in attempting to discern what the original purposes and intent were as far as the LUE mapping were concerned."

It seems that von Mueller and his friends took the time to copy the LUE and they didn't know what it was. Von Mueller also mentions "the LUE mapping", if you look at the LUE, there is nothing on it that looks like a map. I wonder if there was documentation included with the LUE that actually showed features of a map.

 

[point hunter]

Another excerpt from The Treasure of the Valley of Secrets, " ...if there was certainly a Cave of Gold such as was described (in the Scarlet Shadow), two locations and only two locations were logical. One of them had to be in the Monument Valley area of southern Utah or in the Culebra Range of the Sangre de Cristos of southern Colorado, and it was almost certain to be in the Culebras with little or no doubt that it would be on the eastern slope."

The Cave of Gold as described in the Scarlet Shadow was in the Culebra Range of southern Colorado, where, in the description of the Cave of Gold, was there any mention of the Monument Valley, two hundred miles away in

In this excerpt from "The Treasure of the Valley of Secrets" Karl von Mueller writes,

"At about this very same time, Hardrock Hammond had come into possession of the LUE map and several of us were busy copying it (it had to be returned to the owner after we had copied it.) and, although we had no idea whatever then that the LUE map was a treasure map, and we were occupied in attempting to discern what the original purposes and intent were as far as the LUE mapping were concerned."

It seems that von Mueller and his friends took the time to copy the LUE and they didn't know what it was. Von Mueller also mentions "the LUE mapping", if you look at the LUE, there is nothing on it that looks like a map. I wonder if there was documentation included with the LUE that actually showed features of a map.

That's exactly what I have been thinking. Your mention of the mapping brings to mind your work with the lines and SDCFIA'S work with great circle mapping. You get close with the mapping and then get closer with the lines. If the lines don't exactly line up, you shoot the lines again from the closest crossing. You will have some other oral rendition, an artifact with multiple meanings, etc. Your keys to the lock if you will. I haven't had time to try running the lines back here, but I think your right.
Why did it have to be returned and where is it now? They are probably all gone, so why hasen't it surfaced? What would something like that even be worth if you could get it today? It looks more and more like the map did either originate with him and his group or they are part of something much bigger as suggested. These guys wern't dumb. They could easily have set around and drawn this up, "For those with eyes to see". Which could explain why it was published. Good old Persher code right? I've said it before, that I don't think the carvings exist in the field as he says in his book. Where are they and why haven't they surfaced over the years? IMHO, they should have. One thing I am puzzling over, is who trained them? This is old ancient knowledge, IMHO. Maybe he and his group where also Knights Templars? That would help tie up some loose ends don't you think?

 

[mdog]

That's exactly what I have been thinking. Your mention of the mapping brings to mind your work with the lines and SDCFIA'S work with great circle mapping. You get close with the mapping and then get closer with the lines. If the lines don't exactly line up, you shoot the lines again from the closest crossing. You will have some other oral rendition, an artifact with multiple meanings, etc. Your keys to the lock if you will. I haven't had time to try running the lines back here, but I think your right.
Why did it have to be returned and where is it now? They are probably all gone, so why hasen't it surfaced? What would something like that even be worth if you could get it today? It looks more and more like the map did either originate with him and his group or they are part of something much bigger as suggested. These guys wern't dumb. They could easily have set around and drawn this up, "For those with eyes to see". Which could explain why it was published. Good old Persher code right? I've said it before, that I don't think the carvings exist in the field as he says in his book. Where are they and why haven't they surfaced over the years? IMHO, they should have. One thing I am puzzeling over, is who trained them? This is old ancient knowledge, IMHO. Maybe he and his group where also Knights Templars? That would help tie up some loose ends don't you think?

Yes, it would be great to have the LUE map and any other related documentation or information. If it's Masonic, like I think it is, it's probably in a Lodge library, somewhere.

I think the mapping that I've posted, was a very long term effort, that involved the religious orders of the Knights Templar and maybe the Knights of Santiago. Treasure legends were a part of the mapping and the Knights of Santiago and the Templars were involved in moving treasure.

I don't know if von Mueller was a Templar but him and Hardrock Hammond were Masons as was Charles Kenworthy, another well known treasure hunter. It used to be that I thought the treasure plotting was done first and then the LUE map was created to lead to those treasures, but now I believe the LUE map was created first and the treasure sites were set up using the LUE map for guidance. And, like you said, creating the mapping would have been easy. You would need a map, you would draw a horizontal line that bisects the map, put at least two starting points on both ends of the line, put a starting point at the middle top of the map, at that starting point run a 257 deg. heading to the edge of the map, find the half way point on that heading and put another starting point there. That will give you six starting points on the map. When you have established those points, start running lines from those points to the edge of the map, you choose the rest of the headings. On the LUE map, the headings they chose are the Sun rays. After you finish running lines, just mark the intersections you want to use. I guess the hardest part would be to choose what kind of information you want to use in the field, could be markers or people at the location.