Lost dutchman mine possibly found!

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azdave35 said:
as far as most of are concerned..you are finished:dontknow:..and i thought mick was bad...lol
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At least Mick had a can of gold paint. BB was better by far, and even Santa Fe New Mexican topped this guy, although he used some photos of gold that I had taken and posted. Put them in his YouTube videos without asking. Not the first "found IT" to do so....either.
Even the Legends History Channel Series incorporated some of what I had posted pictures of years ago, although they re-created some of it in far more accessible places. I could have told them where the real places were, if they had asked, but I guess they didn't want to stray that far from their trucks. All in all, it's was kinda fun seeing what they did come up with for the film crew to shoot.
Actually, someone should take a run out there with a couple of cans and spray a few boulders. That way, when they get there, they'll have something to point the cameras at.
On second thought though, they will probably have a few of their own, going by what's been done in the past.
 

Roger Rantz said:
Starting from page 56 you will see they try to silence me
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You can check the time frames too, they dont let my post stay up, they cloud it with other posts. Done this to me from the start, dont let them silence me. Start from page 56
 

Roger Rantz said:
You can check the time frames too, they dont let my post stay up, they cloud it with other posts. Done this to me from the start, dont let them silence me. Start from page 56
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Dave is One of those who is permanently on the ignore list, start from page 56 to see them try and silence this
 

Roger Rantz said:
Dave is One of those who is permanently on the ignore list, start from page 56 to see them try and silence this
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It was much worse before i found the ignore button, but starting on page 56 you can see some of the things they are trying to hide
 

Roger Rantz said:
It was much worse before i found the ignore button, but starting on page 56 you can see some of the things they are trying to hide
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Nobodie is another one on the permanent ignore list. Start from page 56 to see these people try to silence this
 

If you are new to this thread, start on page 32, that's when the story really took on a new life of it's own and some stunning revelations were made beyond the usual google earth pics.

1. It started with a claim that an "attorney" had a Supreme Court Case ready to go. When pressed for details of this claim against the gov't, nothing could be provided. When pressed for a docket number, none was provided . When pressed that it takes years to get up to the Supreme Court through appeals and you need to be approved by the Supreme Court to even be heard, there was silence. When asked who the attorney of record was( an attorney of record is the attorney who represents you in your case), Anita Johnson was name dropped. I researched her and found out she is a Real Estate and family lawyer in Virginia. I reached out to the firm and confirmed that they had no Supreme Court cases either pending or in the works and are only licensed to practice in VA, and Maryland, not in Arizona where any claim would have to be made. An about face occurred and it turns out it, she wasn't the attorney of record, but an attorney who was the contact for a "multi millionaire uncle" who could allegedly provide financing. I further checked the Supreme Court docket, and they have no cases pending involving anything remotely to do with the subject matter in this thread. Final analysis: There is no Supreme Court Case pending. Anita Johnson is not the attorney of record in any legal matters against the US Gov't or the State of Arizona.

2. After the Supreme Court case claim was found to not exist, a claim was then made that a proxy would be posting in lieu of the starter of this thread. Final analysis: No proxy materialized, still posting as the OP.

3. Without provocation, it was spontaneously posted, "we'll see skulls in the Dutchman mine on the show". Any reasonable person reading that, would assume, to make such a claim, the claimant had seen actual skulls. When asked directly if he observed skulls, misdirection was thrown out with a story about there being a legend of skulls and OP did not confirm or deny if he saw actually saw them. Then when reminded it's a crime to not report found human remains, OP pointed to the legend as cover and that the "mine is sealed" so how could one see any skulls? (Um, i don't know, because you claimed we were going to see them, so it's assumed you saw them). Final Analysis: The Dutchman mine is sealed (or is it?, see next post) and no skulls were observed.

4. With the revelation that the Dutchman mine was sealed (and this is the first i recall it being indicated as such in 40 pages), I asked about this as we had all been led to believe OP had been in the mine and even observed the gold rich veins (see #5 on that) , story was then changed to "2 of the 3 entrances" were sealed. Again, when applying the "reasonable person" standard (for those who don't know, it's a law term used in court to determine reasonableness, as in "how would a reasonable person view this"), if 2 of 3 are sealed, then ONE is open, meaning there is an open entrance to the Dutchman mine. Final Analysis: Since we have conflicting testimony, the OP's testimony has been impeached and it can not be relied upon either way.

5. Did OP see Gold in the Mine or Not? On two different occasions, i've asked OP to take pictures of the "gold rich veins" OP's seen in the Dutchman Mine. Both times, the response wasn't " Sorry, I can't get those picture the mine is sealed". It was a reply in the affirmative that he would the next time he got out there. A spontaneous declaration that this mine is the largest gold containing mine in the WORLD. (again to make that claim, a reasonable person would assume OP saw a ton of gold in there). OP later confirmed that he hadn't seen any gold in the mine, that he had only seen gold in outside piles of tailings. Final Analysis: OP has not seen any gold in the mine.

Final Analysis After re-reading this entire thread in its entirety, i realized that the OP rarely has committed to any definitive answer on anything. OP's answers to pointed questions are always evasive (deflecting often) and often in an "implied" manner. For example, Question: "can you get me pictures of those gold rich veins" Answer: "Sure, next time i'm up there." Then when confronted, there's an out: "i never said i saw the gold" or "i never said i was in the mine" etc etc. Did OP find the "lost dutchman mine"? Who knows, the OP doesn't know, we don't know. In point of fact, we may never know as even if a mine is found, forensics may not be able to determine that is the actual lost mine. Unless the Dutchman buried a time capsule in his mine, with his picture, with a note and with his DNA sample so we can compare it to known living ancestors, we'll likely never know.
 

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Roger Rantz said:
Nobodie is another one on the permanent ignore list. Start from page 56 to see these people try to silence this
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GoDeep is also apart of the group who tried to silence me. Starting with page 56 you can see how i tricked some of them to let me get a few sat images posted. I have posted more before, but they continue to try and silence me... Start with page 56
 

Roger Rantz said:
GoDeep is also apart of the group who tried to silence me. Starting with page 56 you can see how i tricked some of them to let me get a few sat images posted. I have posted more before, but they continue to try and silence me... Start with page 56
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godeep is his own man...not the chairman of a government conspiracy against you...he merely stated the facts as he saw them ..matter of fact..he stated the facts as you wrote them....i guess mark twain was right when he said a gold mine is just a hole in the ground with a liar standing on top...you made your first mistake when you told your first lie here...it just snowballed from there because you had to tell more lies to cover up the first one....rog ..you are truly your own worst enemy:occasion14:
 

GoDeep said:
If you are new to this thread, start on page 32, that's when the story really took on a new life of it's own and some stunning revelations were made beyond the usual google earth pics.

1. It started with a claim that an "attorney" had a Supreme Court Case ready to go. When pressed for details of this claim against the gov't, nothing could be provided. When pressed for a docket number, none was provided . When pressed that it takes years to get up to the Supreme Court through appeals and you need to be approved by the Supreme Court to even be heard, there was silence. When asked who the attorney of record was( an attorney of record is the attorney who represents you in your case), Anita Johnson was name dropped. I researched her and found out she is a Real Estate and family lawyer in Virginia. I reached out to the firm and confirmed that they had no Supreme Court cases either pending or in the works and are only licensed to practice in VA, and Maryland, not in Arizona where any claim would have to be made. An about face occurred and it turns out it, wasn't the attorney of record, but an attorney who was the contact for a "multi millionaire uncle" who could provide financing. I further checked the Supreme Court docket, and they have no cases pending involving anything remotely to do with the subject matter in this thread. Final analysis: There is no Supreme Court Case pending. Anita Johnson is not the attorney of record in any legal matters against the US Gov't or the State of Arizona.

2. After the Supreme Court case claim was found to not exist. A claim was then made that a proxy would be posting in lieu of the starter of this thread. Final analysis: No proxy materialized, still posting as the OP.

3. Without provocation, it was spontaneously posted, "we'll see skulls in the Dutchman mine on the show". Any reasonable person reading that, would assume, to make such a claim, they had seen actual skulls. When asked directly if he observed skulls, misdirection was thrown out with a story about their being a legend of skulls and OP did not confirm or deny if he saw actually saw them. Then when reminded it's a crime not report found human remains, it was pointed to the legend as cover and that the "mine is sealed" so how could one see any skulls. Final Analysis: The Dutchman mine is sealed (or is it?, see next post) and no skulls were observed.

4. With the revelation that the Dutchman mine was sealed (and this is the first i recall it being indicated in 40 pages it was sealed up), I asked about this as we had all been led to believe OP had been in the mine and even observed the gold rich veins (see #5 on that) , story was then changed to "2 of the 3 entrances" were sealed. Again, when applying the "reasonable person" standard (for those who don't know, it's a law term used in court to determine reasonableness, as in "how would a reasonable person view this"), if 2 of 3 are sealed, then ONE is open, meaning there is an open entrance to the Dutchman mine. Final Analysis: Since we have conflicting testimony, the OP's testimony has been impeached it can not be relied upon either way.

5. Did OP see Gold in the Mine or Not? On two different occasions, i've asked to take pictures of the "gold rich veins" OP's seen in the Dutchman Mine. Both times, the response wasn't " Sorry, I can't get those picture the mine is sealed". It was a reply in the affirmative that he would the next time he got out there. He also made a declaration that this mine is the largest gold containing mine in the WORLD. (again to make that claim, a reasonable person would assume he saw a ton of gold in there). He later admitted that he hadn't seen any gold in the mine, that he had only seen gold in outside piles of tailings. Final Analysis: He has not seen any gold in the mine.

Final Analysis After re-reading this entire thread in its entirety, i realized that he rarely has committed to any definitive answer on anything. His answers to pointed questions are always evasive (deflecting often) and often in an "implied" manner. For example, Question: "can you get me pictures of those gold rich veins" Answer: "Sure, next time i'm up there." Then when confronted, he then has an out: "i never said i saw the gold" or "i never said i was in the mine" etc etc. Did he find the "lost dutchman mine"? Who knows, the OP doesn't know, we don't know. In point of fact, we may never know as even if a mine is found, forensics may not be able to determine that is the actual lost mine. Unless he buried a time capsule in his mine, with his picture, with a note and with his DNA sample so we can compare it to known living ancestors, we'll never know.
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all he found was some images from google earth:laughing7:
 

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