Lets talk dowsing rods

[goldseeker4000]

So what does anyone know about these modern dowsing rods. do they work? Thinking of buying one. Anyone on here located gold or even a jar of coins from using these in conjunction with traditional detectors?

 

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[Lanny in AB]

I know nothing about the commercial ones--many of them are very expensive (considering the small amount of actual electronic components they may or may not actually contain). In fact, some of the commercial units are prohibitively expensive.

Having said that, I have had the experience of discussing the use of rods made from copper-coated steel/steel. During several fascinating discussions, I had the occasion to discuss their usage, for saving lives, with some Vietnam vets, soldiers on active duty that used them successfully to locate enemy tunnels and land-mines during the war.

Now, these items were made from rods that would cost a person next to nothing for the materials used (they were often made them from whatever could be found--heavy gauge wire, acetylene welding rod, etc.). The people that used them were very good at using them.

It seems that some people can find items with the rods, and some people just can't. However, the ones that can are often very accurate and efficient with their usage.

There are people that also use these simplistic methods to look for gold deposits as well. There's ample proof that the Spaniards used "dipping needles" to look for gold and silver deposits for hundreds of years--it (the use of rods and needles) many have something to do with electrical charges that build up around mineral deposits.

As far as spending thousands of dollars to buy a commercial set/unit goes, I'd be very hesitant to recommend that course of action. I'd recommend making your own set (for next to nothing) to see if you can locate items with them before you take any further action. Better yet, if you can find someone that's already good at using them, see if they can train you, or see if you can talk them into helping you locate items with them.

There should be information on the usage of rods available on the Internet. I figure that if people can find tunnels and land-mines with them (people also use them to find gas, water lines, and well-water), why not be able to find minerals with them as well?

I'm sure that others know far more about their use than I do, all the best,

Lanny

 

[Hoser John]

Welding rods 2.5 X longer length than handle-4" handle & 10" length. NEED always trumps greed,some folks got it others never. Had a great time in DC Wyoming playing with the rods with friends at the CCC last July and Russau,poster here,had a electronic unit he was working on but time/tide didn't allow to utilize it,maybe next time. Anyhow fun stuff and do NOT comprehend the base of workings but sometimes thats better in this life--to enjoy this short trip called life and comprehend in the afterlife-tons a au 2 u 2 -John

 

[Doug Watson]

#4 bare ground wire at home depot makes as good as any. Doug.

 

[stefen]

So what does anyone know about these modern dowsing rods. do they work? Thinking of buying one. Anyone on here located gold or even a jar of coins from using these in conjunction with traditional detectors?

Might want to get 2

 

[goldfinder]

So what does anyone know about these modern dowsing rods. do they work? Thinking of buying one. Anyone on here located gold or even a jar of coins from using these in conjunction with traditional detectors?

I did extensive research on them as I have a friend who was good at dowsing. I made him a set of rods using brass welding 1/8 inch rod and made him a signal generator tuned to several frequencies that the expensive guys were using. He could find gold and silver up to 1/2 mile away with the setup I made him but it was gold and silver I had hidden. Several other friends I made units for could also do the same even though they couldn't do it without the electronic transmitter.

I found I could use the electronic dowsing system to find things recently hidden but we never found anything that was a lost treasure. I know some can use them to at least some extent but the really good dowsers are few and far between and there are some out there. You never know until you try. Most of advice you here is not to spend a lot of money on them and I agree. There is labor involved and the materials circuits are very inexpensive. I'd recommend not spending more than $250 to $300 for an electronic dowsing version w/ transmitter and rods. If you buy the rods alone, not more than $100 for a pair. Lots of naysayers out there so my take is to learn to follow your intuition (inner Guidance I call it) as that was dowsing is all about.

 

[Macklin]

I've been going round and round trying to decide on what metal detector would be the best buy for gold prospecting that is under a thousand dollars . All the advertisements and performance claims for different kinds of detectors can make your head spin . I have never heard of dowsing rods being used for metal detecting . When I think of dowsing , I think of someone walking around with a forked stick trying to find water . It's hard to believe it could work better than a metal detector .

 

[Hoser John]

They absolutely DO NOT never no way ever. Just get a righteous Tesoro Lobo ST as a newbie you'll need discrimination to not end up turning your unit into a dusty closet bunny. Join a local yokel club be it gem/mineral-gold-detecting and learn for FUN as you must pay your dues to learn this hobby and at least 90% ditch quite rapidly hence there are FANTASTIC used but not abused units for 1/2 retail virtually new. Dowsing is fun---detecting is rock solid science---John

 

[stefen]

I'm seriously considering marketing the 'AFDB' (aluminum foil deflector beanie) for dowsers immediately after the final 'Beta Test' report.

 

[russau]

i already have one of these beanies and have tried it out! i had mine specifically made to fit me correctly and found that whenever i got around ANY type of WORK i broke out in a sweat and got real dizzy and very nervious! i dont recommend anyone over 30 years old wearing/using one of these for your own personal safty!

 

[russau]

P.S. im still trying to recover from this episode!

 

[russau]

P.S.S. i may never get over the shock of it!

 

[goldseeker4000]

I've been going round and round trying to decide on what metal detector would be the best buy for gold prospecting that is under a thousand dollars . All the advertisements and performance claims for different kinds of detectors can make your head spin . I have never heard of dowsing rods being used for metal detecting . When I think of dowsing , I think of someone walking around with a forked stick trying to find water . It's hard to believe it could work better than a metal detector .

Macklin, You say you want a gold detector under a grand? Well seriously look at the x-terra705 as this is a professional level detector for both gold nuggets and coins for just under a grand. I got mine for $998 and with it I got standard 9" concentric MF, 5x10" DD HF, and additional coil 6" DD HF for $998 posted here are targets I have found. It is light weight, easy to use and figure out. Tons of tech support on here and on finds treasure forum and videos on minelab on tv will get you up and running fast. It is the top VLF gold machine out on market right now. If you have questions please ask me. Tesoro lobo st will not be able to get the depth that the 705 will get. Don't get the 305 or 505. Just the 705, it has vry important prospecting features that the other two don't have.

 

[stefen]

i already have one of these beanies and have tried it out! i had mine specifically made to fit me correctly and found that whenever i got around ANY type of WORK i broke out in a sweat and got real dizzy and very nervious! i dont recommend anyone over 30 years old wearing/using one of these for your own personal safty!

 

[Lanny in AB]

Goldseeker, that 3 gram nugget sure is a beauty!

Great find, and all the best,

Lanny

 

[NaturalJWL]

#4 bare ground wire at home depot makes as good as any. Doug.

We used these when building pools years ago to find underground power and water lines.

This was before locators became common, you could tell where not to dig.

Power lines are easy, not sure about anything smaller.

Get a proven metal detector.

 

[goldseeker4000]

naturaljwl, Hi how are you, I have two proven detectors. I intend to use the dowsing rods to narrow down where to search, then bring in the GPX4000 with my 11x17 mono nugetfinder coil. If this dowsing can in fact work and I am able to get the hang of it then I think using them together would be advantageous.

 

[RGRJN]

You might try the Dowsing forum here on treasure.net

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?board=200.0

Joe

 

[Macklin]

Thank you for the input goldseeker4000 . The X-Terra 705 gold pack is one I have looked into . There is so much information and opinion on metal detectors I wonder if I will ever make up my mind . And if I do buy one now will there be a better deal for a better detector six months from then . I'm not poor but I'm not wealthy . I would hate to spend a thousand dollars and then regret it a few months later . I may just need to step back for awhile . Not get in to big of a hurry . I'm not even positive that I need one at all yet .

 

[TheRandyMan]

I have been studying dowsing for a couple of years now and it is apparent to me that there are some individuals who can do it almost without effort and others who cannot do it under any circumstances no matter how hard they try. Within that spectrum, which is huge, lies the vast majority of everyone else. If I had to guess, it might be represented by a bell curve similar to the ones you see when looking at IQ disbursement in a population. So, it is very easy to understand how dowsing can get such a poor reputation for legitimacy when so few are expert at it...it would lead many to think of it as a scam since they personally could not do it right off the bat the first time they tried it. Then again, they probably couldn't hit a curve ball the first time they tried it either, but if they loved baseball...they would keep trying until they could hit one, or quit.

But, I digress...

My correlated theory is that that many people could actually learn to dowse at a basic level. Basic level dowsing would be having the ability to dowse for water...something our bodies have in huge abundance and is present in large amounts on earth. No coincidence in that 3 way correlation. However, to attain proficiency beyond that basic level, the process would be similar to becoming a pianist or mastering any musical instrument. Many years of many hours of practice that would produce some level of proficiency depending upon how much talent they were born with for that particular instrument. However, they would never become as spectacular as those born savants who are "wired" for their instrument... or wired for dowsing.

For most people, its just not worth their time and just easier to mindlessly bash the concept since it didn't work for them in the 15 minutes of their life they devoted to it.

So, where are the successful dowsers? Why don't you ever hear of them? Why don't you see the amazing finds?

If you had the preternatural ability that manifested itself in (my silly guess) about 1 person in every 1 million... and it allowed you to find certain valuable minerals, treasures and other things of value...wouldn't you also be smart enough to realize that just throwing out that information all over the place just would not be a good idea?