Put the coins on a scale, take a pic and show us. Show us the appraisers paperwork. It’s so easy for you to end this. The coins are fake and you know it. Prove me wrong and I’ll apologize. Forum rules prohibit me from calling you a liar and a fraud. All I did was call out two very obviously fake silver dollars. The ball is in your court.
I'm with YOU on this one, who the F cares if they are fake, you are not buying them, no skin off your back ...To those who question the authenticity of someone else's coins,, what does it matter to you ? What difference does it make ? Does it make you feel better ? does the fact that whether you deem them to be real or have any relevance ?
I mean come on guys... come on. If a person shares a pic of some coins (which are coins whether or not someone calls them fake) and tells a story about provenance , what gives somebody else the justification to stand up and trample all over that story, call out fakes , liars etc...? Would it not be better to just see that the owner of these coins is happy with them and the memories attached, therefore making them as real , or more real than others ?.. Surf pirate was alluding to the same thing above. ,, so what if a website ,that you can find ,deems them to be fake ? what difference does it make ?..
I think some real treasure hunting may be necessary... for the treasure of the 'soul', which is most frequently expressed, by us humans, as Empathy towards others.
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When it comes to believing someone's opinion, expertise, and credibility, it does matter. In a forum where you're trying to get accurate information, telling the truth is critical. If something is claimed to be genuine, and someone else points out that due to certain features that it isn't, I think we all want to find out if it's true or not. Many reproductions out there can fool experts, so, sometimes it's a very minor thing that tells the tale. Personally, I'd like to be able to spot fakes, so, any evidence in that area is helpful so I don't buy a reproduction purported to be genuine. That could save you quite a bit of money. TP mentioned in this thread that it would be a fairly simple way to find out one way or another whether the "coin" in question is genuine or not. If not, it no slam on anyone or their family. As we all get older, memory on past events and conversations can become a bit foggy. What we believe to be true, might be just a mix or conversion of other similar events. From the photos I've seen here, it looks like a reproduction. Now, if genuine coins were actually made with those same questionable features, I'd like to see an example of that. Part of that proof would be an appraisal from an expert, or, at least some supporting evidence that it meets certain specs, such as weight and diameter. I know if were something passed down to me, I would certainly want to verify that it's real or not regardless of my belief in the integrity of my relative. Who knows how many hands have held that item over the years since it was initially acquired. They could have been fooled too at some point, or, maybe the "coin" was stolen and a fake substituted by someone, sometime after the fact. Any number of ways this item could have made it's way into a collection. I've known shady dealers of all sorts of items that would substitute a fake for a genuine when you weren't looking. Getting a simple appraisal could risk that happening if you don't keep an eye on your item 100% of the time. Some crooked jewelry dealers were famous for swapping valuable genuine stones for paste. Don't let them take your item in the back room "lab" to be tested without you.To those who question the authenticity of someone else's coins,, what does it matter to you ? What difference does it make ? Does it make you feel better ? does the fact that whether you deem them to be real or have any relevance ?
I mean come on guys... come on. If a person shares a pic of some coins (which are coins whether or not someone calls them fake) and tells a story about provenance , what gives somebody else the justification to stand up and trample all over that story, call out fakes , liars etc...? Would it not be better to just see that the owner of these coins is happy with them and the memories attached, therefore making them as real , or more real than others ?.. Surf pirate was alluding to the same thing above. ,, so what if a website ,that you can find ,deems them to be fake ? what difference does it make ?..
I think some real treasure hunting may be necessary... for the treasure of the 'soul', which is most frequently expressed, by us humans, as Empathy towards others.
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Let's just look at the Today's Finds for an example.To those who question the authenticity of someone else's coins,, what does it matter to you ? What difference does it make ? Does it make you feel better ? does the fact that whether you deem them to be real or have any relevance ?
I mean come on guys... come on. If a person shares a pic of some coins (which are coins whether or not someone calls them fake) and tells a story about provenance , what gives somebody else the justification to stand up and trample all over that story, call out fakes , liars etc...? Would it not be better to just see that the owner of these coins is happy with them and the memories attached, therefore making them as real , or more real than others ?.. Surf pirate was alluding to the same thing above. ,, so what if a website ,that you can find ,deems them to be fake ? what difference does it make ?..
I think some real treasure hunting may be necessary... for the treasure of the 'soul', which is most frequently expressed, by us humans, as Empathy towards others.
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They were only minted in 1921 at Denver....so that is strange indeed
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