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Lawmakers Take on Knockout Game
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Old Bookaroo
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packerbacker:
You've shifted from the media not reporting on this scourge because of bias or "PC" to the victims not reporting the crimes (which is true of every crime there is - not unique to assaults).
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
You've shifted from the media not reporting on this scourge because of bias or "PC" to the victims not reporting the crimes (which is true of every crime there is - not unique to assaults).
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
I probably wouldn't report every crime.
Simply because I don't believe in every Law.
& even if it happened to Me, doesn't mean I'd report it.
Like DUI
If someone hit my Vehicle & was falling down Drunk.
As long as they could Supply me with their Insurance card,
and we can both drive our Cars from the scene,
I didn't see a drunk
not part of my job description.
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NHBandit:
Nope.
I do see what is going on. I'm not blinded by an agenda.
Good luck to all,
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Nope.
I do see what is going on. I'm not blinded by an agenda.
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
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jeff of pa:
With all due respect, you'd let a drunk driver take off to go hit somebody else?
I'd call the law to get them off the road.
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
With all due respect, you'd let a drunk driver take off to go hit somebody else?
I'd call the law to get them off the road.
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
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OB,
Even Al Sharpton has FINALLY come out and made a statement against these "knockout game" participants. Granted, it was not as strong as I feel his statement should have been, but I doubt seriously if Sharpton would comment and thereby legitimize the existance of this behavior or ANYTHING negative towards young blacks unless it was a really serious situation.
As a personal note, these actions and attacks disgust me and I would be just as disgusted if it was white on black innocents, but it isn't and we're dealing with young blacks on white crime. Personally, I would really enjoy seeing one of these thugs shot, on the spot, by a concealed carry permit holder. So far as I know, this hasn't happened yet and it needs to! Those doing these attacks are nothing but mentally disturbed animals and the only way to deal with a deranged animal is to shoot it and put it down!
Even Al Sharpton has FINALLY come out and made a statement against these "knockout game" participants. Granted, it was not as strong as I feel his statement should have been, but I doubt seriously if Sharpton would comment and thereby legitimize the existance of this behavior or ANYTHING negative towards young blacks unless it was a really serious situation.
As a personal note, these actions and attacks disgust me and I would be just as disgusted if it was white on black innocents, but it isn't and we're dealing with young blacks on white crime. Personally, I would really enjoy seeing one of these thugs shot, on the spot, by a concealed carry permit holder. So far as I know, this hasn't happened yet and it needs to! Those doing these attacks are nothing but mentally disturbed animals and the only way to deal with a deranged animal is to shoot it and put it down!
I feel accidents happen, But usually not in pairs so oddds are he'd make it home.
Unless he told me he couldn't in which case I'd drive him/her or find them a driver.
again not my job description to Be Nark, judge, Jury, or executioner
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oh gee...more insults from the haters...
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A word to the wise ...Stop the personal attacks, this applies to both sides.
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And what do you suppose MY agenda might be ? I have 4 direct descendants who fought in the Revolutionary War and am prior military myself. I took an oath to defend the US Constitution at all cost against foreign and domestic enemies and I feel it's my duty to my children and grand children to preserve the American traditions and our freedoms and our way of life. I grew up during the 60s when Communists and Socialists were trying to kill us. I watched the fall of the Russian empire when they finally realized it didn't work. Now here we are in the 21st century. More people are getting government handouts than there are working. Deny it if you will, but the vast majority of those sucking on the government tit are also the same people who voted our current President into office. Some of them are professional welfare recipients who have never worked an honest days work in their entire lives even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Some are afraid they might lose the Social Security benefits they are getting even though they are recent immigrants to this country and never paid in a dime. The Dems played the game well. They created panic that if those evil Republicans got back in the free ride might stop. What do YOU suggest we do when there is more money going out than there is coming in ? Oh wait... we're there already. Government is out of control. I'm a common sense kind of guy. The things they do make no sense to me. You say you can see what's going on ? Really ? What do you see ? It's my opinion that you're either watching a different movie than I am or you're part of the problem and you refuse to see what's going on.
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difficult to post facts to what ever you call that other stuff.
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I repeat, please keep thread on topic.
We will NOT go quitely into the night!
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"Knockout Game" Player Shot By Concealed Carry Permittee - Christine Rousselle
Guy was waiting for his young daughter, youth poked him with a taser in the side, taser failed to fire.
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Reports: Alleged trend of 'knockout game' a myth
According to reports by CNN, the Today show, USA TODAY and others, the game takes place when young people randomly assault strangers in an attempt to knock them out with one punch.
The attacks are leading to arrests, more officers on the streets and warnings for vigilance among the public, law enforcement officials and victims advocates told USA TODAY. In New Haven, Conn., police spokesman David Hartman said police are investigating six incidents in the past month as possible "knockouts."
But police officials in several cities where the attacks have been reported say the knockout game is an urban myth, and that attacks that have received recent attention in the media have been random assaults, the New York Times is reporting.
According to reports by CNN, the Today show, USA TODAY and others, the game takes place when young people randomly assault strangers in an attempt to knock them out with one punch.
The attacks are leading to arrests, more officers on the streets and warnings for vigilance among the public, law enforcement officials and victims advocates told USA TODAY. In New Haven, Conn., police spokesman David Hartman said police are investigating six incidents in the past month as possible "knockouts."
But police officials in several cities where the attacks have been reported say the knockout game is an urban myth, and that attacks that have received recent attention in the media have been random assaults, the New York Times is reporting.
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Brooklyn attack arrest: Is 'knockout game' a hate crime?
Growing reports of the 'knockout game' are forcing police to take a closer look at racial motivations while also being careful to not spark copycat attacks.
By*Patrik Jonsson,*Staff writer / November 23, 2013
Four arrested for 'knockout' game
Hate crime charges against a black*Brooklyn*man for assaulting a white man could raise the stakes over what to do about the so-called “knockout game,” where primarily young black men surprise white victims with a rain of punches – sometimes for a $5 bet.
Police have been receiving reports that indicate a wave of “knockout game” incidents primarily in the Northeast, and some police are now beginning to draw connections between individual reports.* “I think it’s very real,” Sgt. Tom Connellan told theNew York Times. “As opposed to a motive for assault, be it anger or robbery, this is strictly for a game.”
The apparent object of the game is to pick an unsuspecting victim and knock them out with a punch. The perpetrators are often described as ethically challenged teenagers, but the potential racial element has begun to be noticed more broadly by community leaders in places like Brooklyn.
Quoted by a local TV news station, Brooklyn Rabbi Yaacov Behrmann said that he believes the assaults are part of “a disturbing game by some African-American teens.”
Some experts insist the game is a “myth” that attempts to correlate unrelated attacks into a pattern with racial overtones. Parents of teens have referred to the attacks as “pranks” that spiral out of control. Police have also been reluctant to make too big of a deal about the attacks, concerned about creating the atmosphere for copy cat crimes.
But others contend there’s a buzz among youth about the game, and troubling instances seem to be cropping up with more regularity, according to some police sources. Police, too, have begun to respond in a more organized way, with some jurisdictions beefing up patrols and increasingly exploring hate crime charges.
GalleryCrime falls in the US. Are you safer today?
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Earlier this month, three*Hoboken*teenagers were charged with murder for killing a homeless man during an apparent “knockout game” attack. Police officials in*Syracuse*said the city had seen two such attacks this year, both of which were fatal.* New York police this week reported seven instances of the “knockout game” in recent weeks.
Some media organizations have compiled dozens of examples of the game in recent years, and a*St. Louis*judge recently suggested that one man had attacked unsuspecting pedestrians 300 times.
“We’re trying to determine whether or not this is a real phenomenon,” New York City*Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly*said on Friday. “I mean, yes, something like this can happen. But we would like to have people come forward and give us any information they have.”
Given the extent to which such racialized attacks fit into broader societal stereotypes about young black men, police are treading carefully.
Moreover, fears of black mob violence against whites dovetails into broader political sentiments simmering in the*US, where concerns are rising in some quarters about officials and media turning a blind eye to such attacks in order to not stir up racial trouble.
Moreover, the killing of*Trayvon Martin*and the acquittal of his shooter,*George Zimmerman, resulted in a drawn-out debate over racial stereotypes, especially those involving young black men.
*“There’s an element to who wants to see this through the lens of race,” Jeffrey Butts, a criminologist at*John Jay College of Criminal Justice*in*Manhattan, told the New York Times.* He added that the appearance of black knockout game players triggers “racial alarms.”
Nevertheless, the new hate crime charges in the Brooklyn attack may be a turning point for police and prosecutors.
In the Brooklyn case, a 24-year-old Jewish man told police he overheard a group of black men talking about the knockout game before he was attacked. Police subsequently charged a man named Marajh Amrit with two counts of a hate crime and third degree assault. Police had first said the attackers were part of an inebriated birthday festivity.
Given that several of the victims in the New York attacks have been Jewish, the city’s Hate Crime Task Force is looking at filing more hate crime charges – if they can bring the perpetrators to justice.
http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/...ck-arrest-Is-knockout-game-a-hate-crime-video
We will NOT go quitely into the night!
Growing reports of the 'knockout game' are forcing police to take a closer look at racial motivations while also being careful to not spark copycat attacks.
By*Patrik Jonsson,*Staff writer / November 23, 2013
Four arrested for 'knockout' game
Hate crime charges against a black*Brooklyn*man for assaulting a white man could raise the stakes over what to do about the so-called “knockout game,” where primarily young black men surprise white victims with a rain of punches – sometimes for a $5 bet.
Police have been receiving reports that indicate a wave of “knockout game” incidents primarily in the Northeast, and some police are now beginning to draw connections between individual reports.* “I think it’s very real,” Sgt. Tom Connellan told theNew York Times. “As opposed to a motive for assault, be it anger or robbery, this is strictly for a game.”
The apparent object of the game is to pick an unsuspecting victim and knock them out with a punch. The perpetrators are often described as ethically challenged teenagers, but the potential racial element has begun to be noticed more broadly by community leaders in places like Brooklyn.
Quoted by a local TV news station, Brooklyn Rabbi Yaacov Behrmann said that he believes the assaults are part of “a disturbing game by some African-American teens.”
Some experts insist the game is a “myth” that attempts to correlate unrelated attacks into a pattern with racial overtones. Parents of teens have referred to the attacks as “pranks” that spiral out of control. Police have also been reluctant to make too big of a deal about the attacks, concerned about creating the atmosphere for copy cat crimes.
But others contend there’s a buzz among youth about the game, and troubling instances seem to be cropping up with more regularity, according to some police sources. Police, too, have begun to respond in a more organized way, with some jurisdictions beefing up patrols and increasingly exploring hate crime charges.
GalleryCrime falls in the US. Are you safer today?
*
Earlier this month, three*Hoboken*teenagers were charged with murder for killing a homeless man during an apparent “knockout game” attack. Police officials in*Syracuse*said the city had seen two such attacks this year, both of which were fatal.* New York police this week reported seven instances of the “knockout game” in recent weeks.
Some media organizations have compiled dozens of examples of the game in recent years, and a*St. Louis*judge recently suggested that one man had attacked unsuspecting pedestrians 300 times.
“We’re trying to determine whether or not this is a real phenomenon,” New York City*Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly*said on Friday. “I mean, yes, something like this can happen. But we would like to have people come forward and give us any information they have.”
Given the extent to which such racialized attacks fit into broader societal stereotypes about young black men, police are treading carefully.
Moreover, fears of black mob violence against whites dovetails into broader political sentiments simmering in the*US, where concerns are rising in some quarters about officials and media turning a blind eye to such attacks in order to not stir up racial trouble.
Moreover, the killing of*Trayvon Martin*and the acquittal of his shooter,*George Zimmerman, resulted in a drawn-out debate over racial stereotypes, especially those involving young black men.
*“There’s an element to who wants to see this through the lens of race,” Jeffrey Butts, a criminologist at*John Jay College of Criminal Justice*in*Manhattan, told the New York Times.* He added that the appearance of black knockout game players triggers “racial alarms.”
Nevertheless, the new hate crime charges in the Brooklyn attack may be a turning point for police and prosecutors.
In the Brooklyn case, a 24-year-old Jewish man told police he overheard a group of black men talking about the knockout game before he was attacked. Police subsequently charged a man named Marajh Amrit with two counts of a hate crime and third degree assault. Police had first said the attackers were part of an inebriated birthday festivity.
Given that several of the victims in the New York attacks have been Jewish, the city’s Hate Crime Task Force is looking at filing more hate crime charges – if they can bring the perpetrators to justice.
http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/...ck-arrest-Is-knockout-game-a-hate-crime-video
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NHBandit
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3,700 posts in 10 months.. It's a miracle you find time to breathe... I said government handouts, not just welfare but you go on with your version of what I posted. Treasure Hunter my apologies if your request to keep it on topic was directed towards me. I was responding to comments made to me directly by Old Bookaroo and now by this other dude.. If I'm out of line please let me know. When guys post comments like "difficult to post facts to what ever you call that other stuff" I like to think I'm intelligent enough to figure out that it's a sneaky underhanded way of politely calling me a liar. That kind of stuff will NOT go over well with me now or any time in the future. The "interesting" thing about statistics is that they can be widely different depending on who you listen to. Are you denying that there's a problem ? http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/639...s-on-food-stamps-than-work-in-private-sector/
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wow...
I hold my breath for the important moments in life.
I hold my breath for the important moments in life.
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Unclebuck257:
Faux News tried to very tired "Why hasn't Al Sharpton denounced..." BS and he called them on it. So far, it does not appear Faux has bothered to acknowledge that.
One more time - people are assaulted every day. It should not happen. It's wrong. We all agree on that.
You claim "...we're dealing with young blacks on white crime." Without sufficient data to support that contention.
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
Faux News tried to very tired "Why hasn't Al Sharpton denounced..." BS and he called them on it. So far, it does not appear Faux has bothered to acknowledge that.
One more time - people are assaulted every day. It should not happen. It's wrong. We all agree on that.
You claim "...we're dealing with young blacks on white crime." Without sufficient data to support that contention.
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
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NHBandit:
You point out how many posts someone else has put up on TN. Is there a house limit? Are you discouraging people from posting here? If so - why do you post? And why do you ignore those who post far more often?
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
You point out how many posts someone else has put up on TN. Is there a house limit? Are you discouraging people from posting here? If so - why do you post? And why do you ignore those who post far more often?
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
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NHBandit:
"Some are afraid they might lose the Social Security benefits they are getting even though they are recent immigrants to this country and never paid in a dime."
Just how does that one work?
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
"Some are afraid they might lose the Social Security benefits they are getting even though they are recent immigrants to this country and never paid in a dime."
Just how does that one work?
Good luck to all,
~ The Old Bookaroo
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