Latest news story on gold mining...Karuk Tribe Still Complaining???
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In that video they have a "Tribal Biologist" talking about dead shell fish and holes in the gravel bar. I'd like to know what kindergarten he graduated from. The shell fish died because the river level dropped, a normal occurrence in the summer time, and the holes will fill in and the whole gravel bar will restructure with the next snow melt flooding.
If this is one of their scientific whizzes then even I a relatively unedicated retired noncom could bury him under a common sense explanation of the situation.
Gramps
If this is one of their scientific whizzes then even I a relatively unedicated retired noncom could bury him under a common sense explanation of the situation.
Gramps
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then we have this
Brown signs compact allowing Ukiah tribe to build casino
STAFF AND WIRE REPORT
Published: Monday, August 8, 2011 at 3:00 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, August 8, 2011 at 9:50 p.m.
Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a gambling compact with a Mendocino County Indian tribe allowing it to build a casino with 900 slot machines.
The governor’s office announced the agreement Monday with the Pinoleville Pomo Nation for a casino near the northern border of Ukiah.
Up to 15 percent of the casino’s net earnings will be used for the community and on programs designed to address gambling addiction, according to the governor’s office.
The agreement also includes steps the tribe must take to protect the environment during construction.
A message left with the tribe at its office in Ukiah was not immediately returned.
The public has until Wednesday to comment on the environmental impact report for the proposed $50 million casino. The tribe hopes to break ground next spring on a 90,000-square-foot casino and a 72,100-square-foot hotel at the site of a former car dealership on North State Street north of Orr Springs Road.
Pinoleville officials say the project will provide jobs and independence for the tribe.
Critics say the Ukiah area doesn’t need another casino. There are two nearby, one seven miles north in Redwood Valley and one 16 miles southeast in Hopland.
Copies of the impact report can be viewed at the Mendocino County Board of Supervisors office on Low Gap Road and at the Ukiah Library on North Main Street.
Comments should be addressed to Leona Williams, chairwoman of the Pinoleville Pomo Nation, 500 B Pinoleville Drive, Ukiah 95482.
The Associated Press contributed to this report
Brown signs compact allowing Ukiah tribe to build casino
STAFF AND WIRE REPORT
Published: Monday, August 8, 2011 at 3:00 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, August 8, 2011 at 9:50 p.m.
Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a gambling compact with a Mendocino County Indian tribe allowing it to build a casino with 900 slot machines.
The governor’s office announced the agreement Monday with the Pinoleville Pomo Nation for a casino near the northern border of Ukiah.
Up to 15 percent of the casino’s net earnings will be used for the community and on programs designed to address gambling addiction, according to the governor’s office.
The agreement also includes steps the tribe must take to protect the environment during construction.
A message left with the tribe at its office in Ukiah was not immediately returned.
The public has until Wednesday to comment on the environmental impact report for the proposed $50 million casino. The tribe hopes to break ground next spring on a 90,000-square-foot casino and a 72,100-square-foot hotel at the site of a former car dealership on North State Street north of Orr Springs Road.
Pinoleville officials say the project will provide jobs and independence for the tribe.
Critics say the Ukiah area doesn’t need another casino. There are two nearby, one seven miles north in Redwood Valley and one 16 miles southeast in Hopland.
Copies of the impact report can be viewed at the Mendocino County Board of Supervisors office on Low Gap Road and at the Ukiah Library on North Main Street.
Comments should be addressed to Leona Williams, chairwoman of the Pinoleville Pomo Nation, 500 B Pinoleville Drive, Ukiah 95482.
The Associated Press contributed to this report
Hoser John
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NOT ONLY NO BUT LL NO TO MORE STINKN' CASINOS-letter going out asap-thanx-John
2cmorau
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out of control, some how we need to get this out to the mass public
Behind the Green Curtain (Environmentalism used for Land Grabbing)
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russau
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its long over due time to start posting EVERYTHING NEGATIVE you can find or dream up on the lieing jerls that claim tobe speaking for the karuck tribe including the green lawyers from Colorado that are using the Karuck tribe for their own purpose and milking our tax dollars to boot!thats all they snake in the grass want! its our tax money that they get fighting for the greedy jerks that claim to represent the Karuck tribe! those are our enemys and the ones we need to go after with vengence!! you either fight them or bend over and get it!
if mining is not done on the reservation then what business is it of the indians anyway?
they should arrest them when they sell fish out of the trunk of their car that they have gill netted in the same rivers that they claim they are trying to protect.
if the US cavalry would have done a better job in the late 1800's we wouldnt be having this problem!
they should arrest them when they sell fish out of the trunk of their car that they have gill netted in the same rivers that they claim they are trying to protect.
if the US cavalry would have done a better job in the late 1800's we wouldnt be having this problem!
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Careful there McDude the PC police will come after you for making a vailed threat against our native brothers. 
Like I said before their biologist got his licence to practice stupidity out of a Cracker Jack box, he doesn't jack-squat about hydralogy and how the river remakes its self every year and those mussels died of a natural consequence of seasonal river levels.
Give these clowns a couple of years and I bet you'll find them out there going for the gold.
Gramps
Like I said before their biologist got his licence to practice stupidity out of a Cracker Jack box, he doesn't jack-squat about hydralogy and how the river remakes its self every year and those mussels died of a natural consequence of seasonal river levels.
Give these clowns a couple of years and I bet you'll find them out there going for the gold.
Gramps
russau
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im suprised that the other 2 casionos didnt complain about theyre being to close to them. this new location will suck money that the other 2 casinos would have gotten! now theyll have to share!
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The crazy thing is those casino's aren't mining the pale faces as much as their own community.
Gramps
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lmao yeah lets play that card, they would still be living in huts made of sticks, skins and mud killing each other in the process of capturing people from other tribes as slaves and murdering women, children and the old in a thousand barbaric ways over land that they say nobody owns if that had happened.
i lived on a reservation for too long watching the majority of the people that refuse to get an education (quit school at a very young age) beat/neglect their wife, kids and the elderly while they spend every dime of their money on alcohol and drugs all while their families lived in conditions that were not fit for a cockroach and they stayed constantly sick.
the majority dont think normal ruls apply in their lives because they have been living on handouts so long they expect to be given everything.
the majority want and do whatever they feel they intitled to do regardless of the legal ramifications of their actions and who or what it hurts.
the majority wouldnt even take a job when i offered it and i was paying the highest wages in the area, i have seen them roll each other when they got their monthly checks like a pack of wild dogs and still they wonder why they have no respect from society in general.
(my oldest daughters mother is native american and i have great grandparents 100% and grandparents 50% native american) i have been there and seen the stupidity first hand and as the years go by the only thing that changes are the faces of the people and the amount of unimaginable poverty brought on by laziness, greed and disrespect for themselves and the culture.
violence, poverty, greed and laziness is the norm with life on the reservation and the native american culture in general not the exception and it wont ever change until the people change their way of thinking and pull themselves out of the pitiful mess that THEY have created.
the facts suck sometimes but so does life and the only way to fix what is wrong is to stop blaming others and educate yourself.
John
i lived on a reservation for too long watching the majority of the people that refuse to get an education (quit school at a very young age) beat/neglect their wife, kids and the elderly while they spend every dime of their money on alcohol and drugs all while their families lived in conditions that were not fit for a cockroach and they stayed constantly sick.
the majority dont think normal ruls apply in their lives because they have been living on handouts so long they expect to be given everything.
the majority want and do whatever they feel they intitled to do regardless of the legal ramifications of their actions and who or what it hurts.
the majority wouldnt even take a job when i offered it and i was paying the highest wages in the area, i have seen them roll each other when they got their monthly checks like a pack of wild dogs and still they wonder why they have no respect from society in general.
(my oldest daughters mother is native american and i have great grandparents 100% and grandparents 50% native american) i have been there and seen the stupidity first hand and as the years go by the only thing that changes are the faces of the people and the amount of unimaginable poverty brought on by laziness, greed and disrespect for themselves and the culture.
violence, poverty, greed and laziness is the norm with life on the reservation and the native american culture in general not the exception and it wont ever change until the people change their way of thinking and pull themselves out of the pitiful mess that THEY have created.
the facts suck sometimes but so does life and the only way to fix what is wrong is to stop blaming others and educate yourself.
John
russau
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yep everyone is! thing is, what are we going/willing todo about it? the majority of small scale miners havent lifted a finger or helped hardly any to stop this.even with the laws on our side,its a uphill battle with the biased courts/wacoenviromentalists/green lies that keep getting repeated in the courts and the judges believe it to be fact when it is shown tobe lies! if we dont fight for it, we dont desearve it!
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beaks said:
I agree with your first two points. However, your last comment is simply the worst thing I have ever read on this site. Promoting genocide is akin to NAZI worship.
delnorter
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Oxbow, I agree. This kind of talk should put down by all.
Mike
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