last chance, lets give em some hell

[2cmorau]

just write a simple two line letter and faX
and all you people in other states, don't point the finger at California if ya all
No on AB120
line item veteo sec 12

Breaking News

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE: 07/14/2011 LAST HIST. ACTION : Enrolled and presented to the Governor at 3:15 p.m.

AB120 went to the Governor on 7/14/2011. He has 12 days to sign, veto, or it becomes law. There is still time to continue to make calls.

Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160

We must stay united !

 

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[jog]

Sent mine off...

 

[russau]

i got three more yeaterday!

 

[2cmorau]

just a sample of what is against us

Anti dredging California Trout is saying to the gov brown
http://caltrout.org/
To protect and restore wild trout, steelhead, salmon and their waters throughout California.
Protect California River's from Suction Dredge Mining
The California Legislature recently passed a bill (AB120) reforming the suction-dredge mining program under California's Department of Fish and Game.
WE NEED YOUR HELP TO ENSURE GOVERNOR BROWN SIGNS AB120 INTO LAW.
1) Suction dredge mining threatens California's streams & rivers

2) Suction dredge mining threatens California's endangered steelhead and salmon populations

3) Suction dredge mining costs taxpayers money (AB120 enforces fees that pay for enforcement of mining regulations)

Please send an email today urging Governor Brown to sign A.B. 120 -- and protect our rivers, streams and drinking water from this destructive mining practice.

Please enter your zip/postal 2011 California Trout, Inc.
870 Market Street, Suite 528, San Francisco, CA 94102 | Phone (415) 392-8887

 

[2cmorau]

we need to write letters showing this guy is incompetent

Biologist Peter Moyle Discusses Effects of Suction Dredge Mining

June 17, 20113 Comments


While the suction dredge issue in California may be moot for the next five years if the current budget deal holds, uber-biologist Peter Moyle writes about his concerns with suction dredge mining, many of which are focused on intrusions into cold-water refugia (stressing fish), and direct effects:
The effects of suction dredging on fish are well described in the peer-reviewed papers Harvey (1986) and Harvey and Lisle (1998) and in the numerous citations in the two DFG review documents (see below “Further Reading”). The effects vary according to size of stream, fish species present, season of dredging, and frequency and intensity of dredging. Direct effects include trapping invertebrates and small fish in the dredges, altering the habitat that supports fish food supply, and changing channel structure to make it less favorable for fish. In the Klamath, piles of dredge tailings in the Salmon and Scott Rivers and their tributaries create attractive spawning grounds for salmonids. But these tailings are so unstable that they are likely to scour under high flows, greatly reducing survival of the embryos placed within the gravel.

(Read Moyle’s entire article here)

CalTrout believes that the impacts of suction dredge mining will vary widely depending on the size of the river and the makeup of the fish who inhabit it, and that blanket regulations for the entire state won’t protect stressed fish populations in specific areas.

We said so when we presented our comments to Fish & Game’s proposed regulations, and we will remain vigilant on the suction dredge issue.

 

[2cmorau]

k guys last post, but its like others have said, time to step up to the plate and support those in the Capital that support us
if AB120 SEC 12 is allow to pass its like being put to the back of the bus
fisherman wade in the waters 2.8 million fishing license in 2010
rafters launch and take out, can't get a head count on this one
all kinds of people hike, camp, swim in the rivers
2cmorau

This is what sierra club has to say http://www.sierraclub.org/ca/ click on this link and see what else they are up too, hey fisherman think you have it made LMAO

New Suction Dredge Regulations Threaten Fish, Frogs, Water Quality, and People!
The California Department of Fish and Game (CDFG) has released new proposed suction dredge
mining regulations for California rivers and streams and is seeking public comments. Now you
have the opportunity to speak out for the protection of rivers, fish and wildlife, water quality, and
public health! Please write a letter TODAY and/or plan on attending a public hearing near you.
Background
Up until recently, suction dredge mining for gold has been pervasive on many California rivers
and streams. This form of mining uses a powerful motor and pump, attached to a hose that is
used to suction up gravel from the stream bottom. Gold is then sorted out from the gravel and the
remaining sediment-laden water is flushed back into the stream. The adverse impacts of this
mining are well documented by scientists. Suction dredging can harm habitat for sensitive,
threatened, and endangered fish and frogs, as well as release toxic mercury left over from the
Gold Rush into the stream.
Previous state regulations failed to recognize these impacts and a lawsuit filed by Indian Tribes
and other organizations forced the agency to develop new regulations. In the meantime, the
California Legislature approved a moratorium on suction dredging that has been in effect since
2009. But if the new proposed regulations are adopted, destructive suction dredging will return to
many of California’s most sensitive rivers and streams.
Unfortunately, the new regulations are a hodge-podge of some good but mostly weak and nonexistent
restrictions that fail to fully protect endangered steelhead, salmon, frogs, and other
species. The new regulations fail to ensure that mining does not harm water quality and human
health with sediment and mercury. Special areas like Wild & Scenic Rivers and Wild Trout
Streams are not protected in the regulations either. In addition, the regulations will depend on
active enforcement from CDFG, which like other state agencies, is suffering from severe budget
cuts.
Just a few examples of the more egregious aspects of the new regulations include:
North Fork American River (Placer County) – This truly wild river was formerly off limits to
suction dredging. But the new regulations allow year round suction dredging upstream of Big
Valley Canyon, which would be harmful to sensitive foothill yellow-legged frog and wild trout.
Adding insult to injury, the proposed regulations also allow the use of larger suction nozzles on
the North Fork. This stream is both a federally-designated Wild River and a state-designated
Wild Trout Stream, neither of which seems to have been considered by CDFG in the
development of the new regulations.
South Yuba River (Nevada County) – One of the most popular swimming rivers in the Sierra
Nevada, the South Yuba under the new regulations will be open to suction dredge mining from
Jul. 1 to Jan. 31. Unfortunately, the river gravels are impregnated with mercury, which was used
to process gold during the Gold Rush. Dredging will release this toxic material into the water,
potentially threatening the health of people and wildlife alike.
Klamath River (Siskiyou County) – The Klamath formerly supported the third largest salmon
population on the west coast. This fishery has dwindled to virtually nothing. The Klamath was
also one of the most heavily dredged rivers in the state prior to the moratorium. Unfortunately,
the new regulations allow suction dredging on the river downstream of Iron Gate Dam from Jul.
1 to Sep. 30. Dillon Creek, a key Klamath tributary that supports the best remaining population
of summer steelhead in the state, was formerly closed but is now open to suction dredging as
well.
San Gabriel River (Los Angeles County) – Portions of the upper San Gabriel River in the San
Gabriel Mountains are closed to dredging in the new regulations. But a segment of the East Fork,
which is critical habitat for the endangered Santa Ana sucker, is open to dredging from Sep. 1 to
Jan. 31. Before the moratorium, the East Fork suffered from some of the most unregulated
mining on public lands in this state. Dredgers were lined up next to each other, turning over the
entire streambed in their search for gold, often diverting the stream into other channels, and
discouraging other visitors from even enjoying the river. The new regulations reinstate the East
Fork as a mining sacrifice area, regardless of the adverse impacts on endangered fish or other
recreation visitors.
CDFG should revise the proposed regulations to put off limits all rivers and streams that provide
critical habitat as well as future recovery areas for all threatened and endangered fish and
wildlife species. All streams that are mercury impaired should also be closed to dredging to
protect water quality, human health, fish, and wildlife. The outstanding and extraordinary values
of state and federal Wild & Scenic Rivers – such as the wild trout fishery of the North Fork
American River – must be specifically protected in the regulations, even if it means that some
streams will be off limits to suction dredge mining. State-designated Wild Trout Streams should
also be closed to mining to protect their fishery values.
In addition, regulations should not depend on active enforcement, given current and likely future
budget cuts. It is simply more realistic to close a stream to mining than to assume that a warden
will be available to ensure that the miner is not dredging within three feet of the stream bank (a
common provision in the new regulations to protect threatened and endangered amphibians,
juvenile fish, and their habitat).
Take Action
Attend the public hearing nearest you. The closest one is in Sacramento: Tuesday, March
29, at 5 p.m., at Cal EPA Headquarters Building, Byron Sher Room, 1001 I Street.
Speak out and support closing rivers and stream to suction dredge mining that:
 Provide critical habitat and recovery areas for threatened and endangered fish and
wildlife.
 Are mercury-impaired, to protect water quality, public health, fish, and wildlife.
 Are federal or state designated Wild & Scenic Rivers and/or Wild Trout Streams.
 Could be harmed if there are insufficient wardens in the field to enforce the new
regulations.
OR WRITE A LETTER
Written comments are due by April 29, 2011. Be sure to email your letter TODAY to
[email protected] (please include in the subject line: Suction Dredge Program Draft
SEIR Comments) or you can review the SEIR and proposed regulations, and submit comments
by visiting www.dfg.ca.gov/suctiondredge.
SAMPLE LETTER (feel free to personalize)
Suction Dredge Program Draft SEIR Comments
California Department of Fish and Game
601 Locust Street
Redding, CA 96001
Dear Department of Fish and Game:
California’s rivers, streams, fish, wildlife, and water quality must be protected from the adverse
impacts of suction dredge mining. The proposed regulations simply do not provide sufficient
protection for these sensitive resources.
Please revise the regulations to prohibit suction dredge mining in all rivers and streams that
provide critical habitat and future recovery areas for threatened and endangered fish and wildlife.
Please close all mercury-impaired rivers and streams to suction dredge mining to protect water
quality, human health, fish, and wildlife.
Please ensure that the extraordinary and outstanding values of state and federal Wild & Scenic
Rivers, as well as the fishery values of state Wild Trout Streams, are fully protected in the new
regulations. Rivers and streams should also be closed to mining if budget cuts result in
insufficient wardens in the field to enforce the new regulations.
Recreational and commercial mining is not a legitimate activity in California if it is done at the
expense of the state’s fish, wildlife, water quality, human health, and state-protected beneficial
uses of our rivers and streams.
Thank you for consideration of my comments,
NAME, ETC.

 

[kuger]

I dont know how many more ways I can debunk there blathering spew of lies....but I am!!Now if he will only listen.....but then again he too busy making sure I kids learn about homosexuality .

 

[Hefty1]

Have you seen this kuger?



Discussion with former a Karuk Councilman and past Director of Karuk Community Development Corporation regarding Karuk Tribal Council/Department of Natural Resources 2001 agenda to use Coho salmon as new Spotted Owl to kick the white-man off the river and take water and land rights from hard working citizens in Siskiyou County…







Karuk Tribal Council KNEW Coho were NOT indigenous to the upper Klamath River!







And the TRUTH shall set us FREE!
www.savethedams.com

 

[kuger]

No I had not,but it doesnt surprise me!!Go up the road when they(the Indians) are netting those salmon totally unregulated(No counts)and see how many are selling them out of there trucks

 

[2cmorau]

why can't they do the same for dredging, (a Federal judge denied the plaintiffs') maybe we need to send letters to the federal judge on the benefits of dredging rather then our reps?

Governor Brown Files Legal Brief to Prevent Delay to Major Solar Project, Help State Meet Renewable Energy Goals and Create Green Jobs

7-22-2011

SACRAMENTO – Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. today announced that he has filed a brief asking a Federal court to deny the latest in a series of litigious maneuvers intended to prevent the completion of a key solar energy project in the Mojave desert, which is expected to create up to 1,000 construction jobs and produce enough clean energy to power 140,000 California homes.

Governor Brown’s brief follows a lawsuit filed by the Western Watersheds Project in January 2011 against the Department of the Interior, Bureau of Land Management, Fish and Wildlife Service and other related parties to block the 370 megawatt Ivanapah solar project due to desert tortoises in the area. Three weeks ago, a Federal judge denied the plaintiffs' application for a temporary restraining order. The plaintiffs, however, continue to pursue a preliminary injunction to halt the project, which was approved by both state and federal officials.

“California has set a bold course for its march toward reliance on renewable energy and the Ivanpah project is a very important step in this effort,” the brief reads. “California has a strong and demonstrated interest in increasing its renewable energy and decreasing greenhouse gas emissions. The Court should take these interests into account, and deny Western Watersheds’ request for a preliminary injunction on the grounds that an injunction is not in the public interest.”

On April 12, 2011, Governor Brown signed SBX1 2, requiring that one-third of the state’s electricity come from renewable sources by December 31, 2020.

Governor Brown’s Amicus Curiae Memorandum, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District, can be read in full, here.

 

[2cmorau]

The 3 million salmon that came back to the Columbia River in 2002 represent the strongest run since 1938. Next year's is projected to be another good return, but no one is proclaiming salmon victory.

Drought left little water in rivers, where young salmon spend up to two years before migrating to the ocean. California's energy crisis led the Bonneville Power Administration to declare an emergency, diverting what water there was - and the young salmon in it - to turbines and away from spillways in the federal hydroelectric dams on the Columbia. The result was the lowest downstream survival rates - as low as 19 percent for mid-Columbia steelhead.



This graph appears in a salmon recovery newsletter in October, 2005 which was published by the Federal Caucus of agencies responsible for the recovery.

Since there was a steady supply of salmon for almost 50 years followed by bumper crops in late eighties and again in 2001-05, why do the feds and the greens think they are endangered? Even if the numbers are lower than they might have been before the dams the trend is steady or upward, just the opposite of trends for endangered or threatened species. Is this about salmon or the economies of the west?

 

[russau]

well i just read that brown signed AB120 into law and in the same breath he signed that illegals can receive benifits and get college tuittion.i think a recall to get him out of office would be in order!

 

[2cmorau]

Hey russau
i agree
fin idiot
crap, just plan crap
and it sounds ;like will have to deal with environmental scientist too, when and if we get to dredge

 

[kuger]

Freakin Nazi!!I said it!The CISQWA and CEWQA,is a nightmare coming.The construction industry isnt gonna know what hit em come Sept.1 when its enforceable!!!They make outlaws out of good people,and I have had it.Guess I will have to start growin weed,thats gonna be legal soon.Need to put food on the table

 

[russau]

somethings going to come to a head out there very soon with this kind of treatment of our rights! a VERY SAD day indeed for all Americans!

 

[Hillbillybjopkr1]

No I had not,but it doesnt surprise me!!Go up the road when they(the Indians) are netting those salmon totally unregulated(No counts)and see how many are selling them out of there trucks

my dad a few months ago bought 2 steelhead and a salmon from some drunk indian in a bar in Happy Camp.....only endangered species around here is the honest hardworkin man!!!!

 

[Hillbillybjopkr1]

Freakin Nazi!!I said it!The CISQWA and CEWQA,is a nightmare coming.The construction industry isnt gonna know what hit em come Sept.1 when its enforceable!!!They make outlaws out of good people,and I have had it.Guess I will have to start growin weed,thats gonna be legal soon.Need to put food on the table

I wouldn't start planting your crop just yet...Amazingly enough..the Fed's are hell bent on enforcing there drug law's even though the ppl voted Prop 215. Now my question is...what would it take to enforce federal mining laws over state....would be wonderful if they did that with the same ferosity they enforce the drug law.....makeing outlaw of the sick and elserly.....ONLY in California

 

[63bkpkr]

Why do we need a superfast train in California? Do you want it? I don't! I want the government, that is State as well as Federal, to be responsible in using our tax money and right now a lot of us are unemployed, under employed and would love to work. So how about taking care of US as well as the U.S.!............63bkpkr

Oh and just to be on topic, my High Banker will be functional by mid April. Will I be able to use it??