Large Copper Coin with Slanted Edge Reeding and Two Silver Items

[artifacthunter]

I got out for a few hours last Saturday and hit a couple of sites in northern Maryland. The weather was warm, and the ground had thawed enough to dig without breaking your wrist! The last place I visited had been hit hard in the past, so I was really going slowly, overlapping, and trying to dig the deep stuff. I only dug a few holes, but hit pay dirt a couple of times. I got a repeatable 70-80 VDI number on my White's V3 and the screen indicated 6-7 inches deep. I dug down, and sure enough, a green disk popped out at about 7 inches! It is about 28mm in diameter, just slightly thinner than a large cent, and I cannot make out any images or letters on either side. The edge has slanted or angled edge reeding, and I am trying to do some research on this. I believe some British one penny tokens from the early 1800’s had slanted reeding, but any other ideas are welcome. The other good find I made for the day is a small silver item also about 7 inches down that has threads on each end. Maybe it had something to do with a watch or clock - not sure! I’ve placed a quarter in the picture for scale.

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My friend found what we think is a watch back made of silver. I’ve included a couple of images below. Let me know if you can identify the markings since we could not find a mark of .925 on it.

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Happy Hunting!

 

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[Patrick1234]

Thanks everyone for the feedback so far! The watch back was found in a farmed field at least 5 miles from the yard where I found the winder and the coin.

Any more info on the coin I got something similar same size and eager as your I'm waterford city Ireland would love to know more as there's not much on the internet. Ours seems to be rounded slanted not just slanted.

 

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[Hunk-a-lead]

I got out for a few hours last Saturday and hit a couple of sites in northern Maryland. The weather was warm, and the ground had thawed enough to dig without breaking your wrist! The last place I visited had been hit hard in the past, so I was really going slowly, overlapping, and trying to dig the deep stuff. I only dug a few holes, but hit pay dirt a couple of times. I got a repeatable 70-80 VDI number on my White's V3 and the screen indicated 6-7 inches deep. I dug down, and sure enough, a green disk popped out at about 7 inches! It is about 28mm in diameter, just slightly thinner than a large cent, and I cannot make out any images or letters on either side. The edge has slanted or angled edge reeding, and I am trying to do some research on this. I believe some British one penny tokens from the early 1800’s had slanted reeding, but any other ideas are welcome. The other good find I made for the day is a small silver item also about 7 inches down that has threads on each end. Maybe it had something to do with a watch or clock - not sure! I’ve placed a quarter in the picture for scale.

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My friend found what we think is a watch back made of silver. I’ve included a couple of images below. Let me know if you can identify the markings since we could not find a mark of .925 on it.

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Happy Hunting!

cool finds and love that silver!

 

[Coinstar magnet]

Happy that is an 'i' & learning towards 1904 as well

Just fascinating to read the comments here...you guys know your stuff!

 

[Gare]

Nice going !!

 

[Red-Coat]

Just fascinating to read the comments here...you guys know your stuff!

Yes, there's a wealth of knowledge here on this site, but I have some additional comments and corrections on the hallmarks for the watch case.

The serifs on the date letter (i) are in the style used for 1904 in London. Note that the cartouche shape for date letters on watch cases often differs from those seen on larger items and in reference tables, so an exact match here is not necessarily to be expected.

The fact that the leopard’s head, facing is in a shield with a pointed end and the head is uncrowned also confirm the date as 1904 for London. In addition, there is no duty mark (monarch’s head) which rules out any date between 1785 and 1890 (so it couldn’t be 1864).

I believe the maker mark is that of John West, a case-maker of White Cross Street, London and then later at Banner Square, St Luke's, London. West has later registrations for the continuity of the business name with the initials in different styles, but the style here is from the original 1822 registration, as below:



Note that British sterling silver doesn’t usually carry a ‘925’ mark. A maker could add it on a hallmarked piece if he so wished, but it’s not part of the compulsory hallmark set applied by the assay office. The lion passant is the official guarantee for sterling.

 

[Coinstar magnet]

Yes, there's a wealth of knowledge here on this site, but I have some additional comments and corrections on the hallmarks for the watch case.

The serifs on the date letter (i) are in the style used for 1904 in London. Note that the cartouche shape for date letters on watch cases often differs from those seen on larger items and in reference tables, so an exact match here is not necessarily to be expected.

The fact that the leopard’s head, facing is in a shield with a pointed end and the head is uncrowned also confirm the date as 1904 for London. In addition, there is no duty mark (monarch’s head) which rules out any date between 1785 and 1890 (so it couldn’t be 1864).

I believe the maker mark is that of John West, a case-maker of White Cross Street, London and then later at Banner Square, St Luke's, London. West has later registrations for the continuity of the business name with the initials in different styles, but the style here is from the original 1822 registration, as below:

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Note that British sterling silver doesn’t usually carry a ‘925’ mark. A maker could add it on a hallmarked piece if he so wished, but it’s not part of the compulsory hallmark set applied by the assay office. The lion passant is the official guarantee for sterling.

I'm hoping to absorb some of this brilliance.

 

[Digger RJ]

I got out for a few hours last Saturday and hit a couple of sites in northern Maryland. The weather was warm, and the ground had thawed enough to dig without breaking your wrist! The last place I visited had been hit hard in the past, so I was really going slowly, overlapping, and trying to dig the deep stuff. I only dug a few holes, but hit pay dirt a couple of times. I got a repeatable 70-80 VDI number on my White's V3 and the screen indicated 6-7 inches deep. I dug down, and sure enough, a green disk popped out at about 7 inches! It is about 28mm in diameter, just slightly thinner than a large cent, and I cannot make out any images or letters on either side. The edge has slanted or angled edge reeding, and I am trying to do some research on this. I believe some British one penny tokens from the early 1800’s had slanted reeding, but any other ideas are welcome. The other good find I made for the day is a small silver item also about 7 inches down that has threads on each end. Maybe it had something to do with a watch or clock - not sure! I’ve placed a quarter in the picture for scale.

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My friend found what we think is a watch back made of silver. I’ve included a couple of images below. Let me know if you can identify the markings since we could not find a mark of .925 on it.

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Happy Hunting!

Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!