Large Cent with a name inscribed on it...I FOUND OUT WHO THE OWNER WAS!

[OutBack Duo]

I found this 1827 large cent in Eldon in Miller County, MO over the weekend and when I got the dirt cleaned off of it I noticed it had something inscribed into it. E.B. Thomas, MCH.22

Can anyone tell me what the MCH.22 is or why someone would do this? I have looked everywhere I could think of online trying to find out who E.B. Thomas is but can't find any reference to him.

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

don

 

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[72cheyenne]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

March 22 maybe.

 

[RUDY2003]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

This could be a Civil War soldiers I.D. disc, maybe 22nd Michigan unit? Soldiers would make these id discs or have them made for identification if they were killed or wounded. Just a gues... Cool find...

Keep safe...

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

I think this is a copper which has been counterstamped by a business. There is a reference out there which lists these--and you may be able to find the listing in that resource. I don't have a copy of it, however.

If the stamp is unlisted, you may wish to look for military records under that name--but I really think it's a counterstamped copper rather than an ID disc.


Best Wishes,



Buckles

 

[thrillathahunt]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

The 22nd MICH Infantry volunteers were from St. Clair, Macomb, Oakland, Livingston, Lapeer and Sanilac counties. They left Pontiac, Mich. on Sept. 4 1862 en route to central Kentucky, 997 soldiers strong. Missouri would be a little out of the way.

 

[stefen]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

As a WAG...March 22, 1827 is the birthdate for E.B. Thomas.

 

[Mike from MI]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

Special date coin, or ID disc. Either way a great find. Congrats!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

Does anyone have a copy of this book?


"Merchant Countermarks on United States Coins" by Gregory Brunk


(I don't--but with the whole name on the coin, it has a good shot of being identified if it is a counterstamp)


In my mind, odds are this is a counterstamp--since it is punched into the face of the coin. If it were a personalized one, then the information would've been scratched in with a knife, rather than purchasing a circular punch with the information set into it.



-Buckles

 

[One mans trash...]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

No E.B. Thomas on the roster of the 22nd Michigan Volunteer Infantry Regiment.

 

[OutBack Duo]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

I think I found it!!! Let me know if you agree.

Hon. Elihu B. Thomas, the father of Augustus Thomas, the well known playwright, died in St. Louis, April 25, 1910. He was born in New York, March 22, 1827, and has lived in St. Louis since 1845. He was a captain in the Mexican War, and nt the establishment of the St. Louis Dispatch was its pubJisher. He was a member of the Missouri Legislature, of the House of the Twenty-second General Assembly in 1862.

This coin was found in Eldon, MO which is 30 miles south of the Missouri State Capital.

 

[Roadquest]

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

I think I found it!!! Let me know if you agree.

Hon. Elihu B. Thomas, the father of Augustus Thomas, the well known playwright, died in St. Louis, April 25, 1910. He was born in New York, March 22, 1827, and has lived in St. Louis since 1845. He was a captain in the Mexican War, and nt the establishment of the St. Louis Dispatch was its pubJisher. He was a member of the Missouri Legislature, of the House of the Twenty-second General Assembly in 1862.

This coin was found in Eldon, MO which is 30 miles south of the Missouri State Capital.

Maybe. But was MCH commonly used to abbreviate March? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCH

 

[OutBack Duo]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

I think I found it!!! Let me know if you agree.

Hon. Elihu B. Thomas, the father of Augustus Thomas, the well known playwright, died in St. Louis, April 25, 1910. He was born in New York, March 22, 1827, and has lived in St. Louis since 1845. He was a captain in the Mexican War, and nt the establishment of the St. Louis Dispatch was its pubJisher. He was a member of the Missouri Legislature, of the House of the Twenty-second General Assembly in 1862.

This coin was found in Eldon, MO which is 30 miles south of the Missouri State Capital.

Maybe. But was MCH commonly used to abbreviate March? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCH

I have seen it a bunch of times on old Obituaries and births for example: http://www.roanetnheritage.com/research/bible/wpa/wpa05.htm

 

[One mans trash...]

Well, if it wasn't his, it should have been.

 

[BuckleBoy]

I still think you should check the book for the counterstamp...I will search the forum to sees who has a copy...



If it is in there, then it is not an ID disc.



Otherwise, sure--your theory seems to match well.




-Buckles

 

[DCMatt]

Re: Large Cent with a name inscribed on it

I think I found it!!! Let me know if you agree.

Hon. Elihu B. Thomas, the father of Augustus Thomas, the well known playwright, died in St. Louis, April 25, 1910. He was born in New York, March 22, 1827, and has lived in St. Louis since 1845. He was a captain in the Mexican War, and nt the establishment of the St. Louis Dispatch was its pubJisher. He was a member of the Missouri Legislature, of the House of the Twenty-second General Assembly in 1862.

This coin was found in Eldon, MO which is 30 miles south of the Missouri State Capital.

How cool is that! Great research!

DCMatt

 

[thrillathahunt]

Way to go OutBack, I would say you solved it!

 

[civilman1]

SWEET

 

[stefen]

My WAG was correct...birthdate

 

[RickyP]

Outback, I think you nailed it