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WASHINGTON (AP) — Wind energy facilities have killed at least 67 golden and bald eagles in the last five years, but the figure could be much higher, according to a new scientific study by government biologists.
The research represents one of the first tallies of eagle deaths attributed to the nation's growing wind energy industry, which has been a pillar of President Barack Obama's plans to reduce the pollution blamed for global warming. Wind power releases no air pollution.
But at a minimum, the scientists wrote, wind farms in 10 states have killed at least 85 eagles since 1997, with most deaths occurring between 2008 and 2012, as the industry was greatly expanding. Most deaths — 79 — were golden eagles that struck wind turbines. One of the eagles counted in the study was electrocuted by a power line.
The vice president of the American Bird Conservancy, Mike Parr, said the tally was "an alarming and concerning finding."
A trade group, the American Wind Energy Association, said in a statement that the figure was much lower than other causes of eagle deaths. The group said it was working with the government and conservation groups to find ways to reduce eagle casualties.
Still, the scientists said their figure is likely to be "substantially" underestimated, since companies report eagle deaths voluntarily and only a fraction of those included in their total were discovered during searches for dead birds by wind-energy companies. The study also excluded the deadliest place in the country for eagles, a cluster of wind farms in a northern California area known as Altamont Pass. Wind farms built there decades ago kill more than 60 per year.
"It is not an isolated event that is restricted to one place in California, it is pretty widespread," said Brian Millsap, the national raptor coordinator for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and one of the study's authors.
The study excluded 17 eagle deaths for which there was not enough evidence. And, in a footnote, it says more golden and bald eagles have since been killed at wind energy facilities in three additional states — Idaho, Montana, and Nevada.
It's unclear what toll the deaths could be having on local eagle populations. And while the golden eagle population is stable in the West, any additional mortality to a long-lived species such as an eagle can be a "tipping point," Millsap said.
The research affirms an AP investigation in May, which revealed dozens of eagle deaths from wind energy facilities and described how the Obama administration was failing to fine or prosecute wind energy companies, even though each death is a violation of federal law.
Documents obtained by the AP under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act show that in two cases in Iowa federal investigators determined that a bald eagle had been killed by blunt force trauma with a wind turbine blade. But neither case led to prosecution.
In one of the cases, a bald eagle was found with a missing wing and a leg in a corn field near a turbine at EDP Renewables North America LLC's Pioneer Prairie facility in Iowa. But the report says, "due to the sensitive nature of wind farm investigations and the fact that this investigation documented first violation for EDPR in Midwest, no charges will be pursued at this time." The report lists four other golden eagle deaths at a wind farm operated by the company in Oregon. The company did not return emailed questions about the incidents from the AP.
The Fish and Wildlife Service, which employs the six researchers, has said it is investigating 18 bird-death cases involving wind-power facilities, and seven have been referred to the Justice Department. The authors noted the study's findings do not necessarily reflect the views of the agency, although some of their data was obtained from staff.
Meanwhile, the wind energy industry has pushed for, and the White House is currently evaluating, giving Meanwhile, the wind energy industry has pushed for, and the White House is currently evaluating, giving companies permission to kill a set number of eagles for 30 years. The change extends by 25 years the permit length in place now, but it was not subjected to a full environmental review because the administration classified it as an administrative change.
Wind farms are clusters of turbines as tall as 30-story buildings, with spinning rotors as wide as a passenger jet's wingspan. Though the blades appear to move slowly, they can reach speeds up to 170 mph at the tips, creating tornado-like vortexes.
Wind farms in two states, California and Wyoming, were responsible for 58 deaths, followed by facilities in Oregon, New Mexico, Colorado, Washington, Utah, Texas, Maryland and Iowa.
In all, 32 facilities were implicated. One in Wyoming was responsible for a dozen golden eagle deaths, the most at a single facility.
The research was published in the Journal of Raptor Research.

Just another dumb move by the lib's.
 

Only 18?

If they want to know what is happening to the birds, read this-

Bird Killers
 

I don't know. I would love to see a cat jump an eagle?

I had a barn cat that was taken off by a bobcat not that long ago, as I was following the trail it did not appear the meeting was amorous. Even though it was a barn cat it was really a fantastic cat. I followed the sign quite awhile, well , you know when there is no more need for that.
 

Only 18?

If they want to know what is happening to the birds, read this-

Bird Killers

Show me anybody that can count to a BILLION, with out saying screw it. How much tax $$$ went into that count:laughing7: Why not place a few thousand cats on the great lakes beaches Our dumb mayor says the beaches are closed most of the year because of seagull poop. not because they dump millions of gallons of raw sewage every time it rains:laughing7:
 

Personally, I like the name "Redskins", especially the two times each year they kick the Dallas Crybabies' --- I mean Dallas Cowboys' butts.
 

I guess if a Wind farm gets built here,
I'll need to stand under it with a frying Pan :laughing7:

"Occifer I was just going to fry up some eggs, & it must have droppped in
when I turned my back to grab some eggs " :o
 

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Why nothing, nothing at all. LOL! :laughing7:

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There's a big generation company wanting to build a wind farm on my home turf.... It will be a cold day in Hell when the people from my First Nation let that fly without a fight. The words "armed stand off" and "barricaded Trans Canada Highway " come to mind first. :violent1:
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BB,

Good luck with that,I really mean that....here in Vt. the progressive Gov. has been cramming wind down everyone throats. Eve if the local Gov,t turns the project down, the turbine are built, and the pristine ridgelines of the Green, and Wooster range of Mtns now are outlined with 100+ ft tall turbines. Countless lawsuits have been filed, only to be thrown out, guess who appointed the judges? We haven't got a huge population of Eagles, and they luckily reside in other areas, but the wood bat population has been dying off, and those left are very subject to death by wind turbine......but the Environmental Impact statement was chanced to allow a certain % og mortality.....too bad it only pertained to bats, and didn't include Politicians.......Good luck, and do all you can to defeat them.

Another example of Wind ....our majority of power comes from Hydro-Quebec, ay 6-7 cents per kwh......wind online at 17 cents per kwh, and the are having to actually shut the turbines off because the existing grid can't transport the extra load....makes perfect sense:BangHead: Gar
 

So, it would appear under the proposed charter of Quebec values, some are more valuable than others,” he wrote on Fri. “That suggests a possible violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and its protection of freedom of religion, which would obligate Ottawa to fight it tooth and nail.” The proposed changes come from the leftist Parti Québécois, which also advocates to make Quebec a sovereign state. If the charter is halted by the Canadian government, Fitz-Morris argues that the party could get what it wants: A validation that the people living within Quebec are vastly different from others in Canada and, thus, deserve to be separate.
 

I feed the eagles. Not because I want to, but they pack off a few of my lambs every year. And sometimes they get them when they are many months old. I can do nothing about it, but try to withstand the $ loss.
 

I feed the eagles. Not because I want to, but they pack off a few of my lambs every year. And sometimes they get them when they are many months old. I can do nothing about it, but try to withstand the $ loss.

Build a wind mill:laughing7:
 

So, it would appear under the proposed charter of Quebec values, some are more valuable than others,” he wrote on Fri. “That suggests a possible violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and its protection of freedom of religion, which would obligate Ottawa to fight it tooth and nail.” The proposed changes come from the leftist Parti Québécois, which also advocates to make Quebec a sovereign state. If the charter is halted by the Canadian government, Fitz-Morris argues that the party could get what it wants: A validation that the people living within Quebec are vastly different from others in Canada and, thus, deserve to be separate.

"Love it or leave it" I say to the PQ, I'll pay a extra tax to send them where they want to go. The thing that really pisses me off with the PQ is that they don't know the history of Canada and that they were afforded to keep their language and culture (not a bad thing) the last time they got their asses kicked. The last big separatist movement resulted in myself doing a "Ice Dance" that resulted in the Canadian Forces having to come in to do what they do and save the day... I guess it may be time for another dance of sorts.... Love it or leave it.
 

I feed the eagles. Not because I want to, but they pack off a few of my lambs every year. And sometimes they get them when they are many months old. I can do nothing about it, but try to withstand the $ loss.

Howdy Sheperdess,

I have only seen one eagle in the wild in my entire life, and that was while visiting Yellowstone.

How do you go about feeding them?

Homar
 

Howdy Sheperdess,

I have only seen one eagle in the wild in my entire life, and that was while visiting Yellowstone.

How do you go about feeding th

Homar

I think she feeds them lamb chops, not grilled though.
 

Howdy Don,

It won't be this winter, but I do have the Grand Canyon on my list. I will make it a point to go to Lake Mary.

I don't get out of the brush that much, I live in the Wild Horse Desert of South Texas. What strikes me funny is that eagles are noted for their eyesight, and yet they can't see those gigantic windmills. :dontknow:

Homar
 

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