KGC Tunnels built after the War

lastleg said:
Gee, and I thought we were tight.

Lastleg, it is evident you do not understand the significance of this project. The survival of the western world is at risk. We may all be doomed, since apparently no member has come forward to lead this crucial project. Our last best hope is that European descendants of the stonemasons imported to build these tunnels can be located, and will be able to get green cards to work on this important project.

For the record, the Brownwood City employee who approved this project has been fired within the past year.
 

Rollie:

I doubt Jay wants anything to do with any kind of Masons. They have Jay
and his partner under constant surveillance to steal HIS gold. No peeking, Jay.
 

I have no idea, Walker Colt. Colin and I only wrote the Handbook of Texas Online article at that reputable organization's request. I gave up on contributing anything to Wikipedia when I realized that anyone could and would change any information there that they didn't like. I am happy to see that others, including some on Wikipedia, are finally coming around to reality.
~Texas Jay
http://bloodybillanderson.webs.com
 

~Texas Jay
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/KK/vbk1.html
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Hey Jay, when did you start rewriting history?
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Although his persistent efforts to rewrite the history of William T. "Bloody Bill" Anderson as William C. "Uncle Billy" Anderson of Brown County, TX, on the basis of an inaccurate article written by Henry C. Fuller in 1924, the documented research of Anderson descendants proves that William C. Anderson was just "Uncle Billy". It is an accepted and proven historical fact that William T. "Bloody Bill" Anderson was killed in 1864.
http://unclebilly.texas-heartland.com/WCA_Bio.html
 

Texas Jay said:
I have no idea, Walker Colt. Colin and I only wrote the Handbook of Texas Online article at that reputable organization's request. I gave up on contributing anything to Wikipedia when I realized that anyone could and would change any information there that they didn't like. I am happy to see that others, including some on Wikipedia, are finally coming around to reality.
~Texas Jay
http://bloodybillanderson.webs.com

Reality????? :icon_scratch:
 

alec said:
Texas Jay said:
I have no idea, Walker Colt. Colin and I only wrote the Handbook of Texas Online article at that reputable organization's request. I gave up on contributing anything to Wikipedia when I realized that anyone could and would change any information there that they didn't like. I am happy to see that others, including some on Wikipedia, are finally coming around to reality.
~Texas Jay
http://bloodybillanderson.webs.com

Reality????? :icon_scratch:
The article has Randolph B Campbell, with impressive credentials, as the author of the TX Handbook article:
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/KK/vbk1.html

Randolph B. Campbell
http://web3.unt.edu/news/experts/expert.cfm?eid=51


Title: Regents Professor
Department: History
College: College of Arts and Sciences


Expertise: 19th-century Texas history, especially slavery in Texas and Reconstruction; early national period of U.S. history (1769-1848)

Education: Ph.D., history, University of Virginia M.A., history, University of Virginia B.S., education, University of Virginia

Activities: Has written or co-written eight books, including Grass Roots Reconstruction in Texas, 1865-1880; An Empire for Slavery: The Peculiar Institution in Texas, 1821-1865; and Sam Houston and the American Southwest; as well as countless articles and book reviews. Gave a lecture on Sam Houston for The History Channel in fall 1996. Past president of the Texas State Historical Association and member of the Southern Historical Association, the Organization of American Historians and the Society of Historians of the Early American Republic."


Fran
 

With the Brownwood Reunion Celebration just around the corner this weekend, I think now is a good time to remind our members of the KGC tunnel network under downtown Brownwood. Most of the people attending this big event have no idea that this historic link to our town's past lays right under their feet...about 15 feet down. They also have no idea about Brownwood's or Brown County's secret history. In the years since I learned about these tunnels, I've found that there are a small but influential group of people in city and county government here who are determined to keep our history a big secret from our citizens and visitors. Our group, in the past four years, has been their biggest threat of exposing this secret history that has existed since the Civil War ended and our job is far from done. The tunnel network is just one part of this secret but it is a very important part.
~Jay~
http://knightsofthegoldencircle.webs.com

http://www.brownwoodtx.com/event/

From: "Jesse James and the Lost Cause" by Jesse Lee James, Published
by Pageant Press, New York, 1961, pages 34 & 35.

"Yet another branch of our secret army was a corp of engineers that
could build bridges, build rock buildings, and do most anything.
They could and did construct secret underground passages right under
bustling cities. They built secret tunnels down under Nashville and
Memphis, Tennessee, St. Louis, Kansas City and St. Joseph, Missouri,
Lawrence, Kansas and under Pueblo and Colorado City, Colorado, and
other towns; too many to name right now. These secretly constructed
tunnels, rooms, escape routes and storage rooms underneath the
surface of the ground were built without Yankee troopers and Federal
detectives ever finding out they were being made by well trained and
experienced workmen.
"Even in that day, when men were working for a dollar or a dollar and
a half per day for ten and twelve hours labor, we were paying our
men, for mining and tunneling, a wage rate of ten dollars per day.
"How did we do it?
"Well, I'll tell you how. Most generally, we would start tunnels
which would connect some of our business houses, such as our own
saloons, gambling houses, livery stables and even the jailhouses
would connect. Because our men were in the offices of public
officials, such as mayors, sheriffs, marshals, congressmen, senators,
school teachers, and principals, tunnels were down and under our
breweries, distilleries, and schools, and with the excuse that beer
needed to be aged, we had to age our whiskey in charred kegs.
"Some of our relay stations and even ranch and farm houses were
almost built like forts, and had tunnels down and under them
connecting the houses underground to the barns and escape routes, or
hatches in and out. We had to have at least two entrances, or means
of entry, or escape.
"So many places advertised across the country, `Jesse James' Cave'!
That is bunk! Yes, we may have had to use a few caves here and there
to hold our horses, or even to sleep in occasionally, that would be
true enough, but if there was only one entrance, and we were stupid
enough to get ourselves cut off, that would have been bad. If we
used a cave with only one entry, you could be sure that we kept a
constant guard posted around outside all the time. If the cave
should have two or more entrances, then we would feel safe, and use
it over and over again," said Jesse.

***
~Texas Jay
 

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It's too bad you quoted "Jesse Lee James", a con man and a liar.
 

"It's too bad you quoted "Jesse Lee James", a con man and a liar."

Alec,
Too much tunnel gas can be fatal; lesser amounts impair judgment.
 

Alec,
Too much tunnel gas can be fatal; lesser amounts impair judgment.
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Rollie, a recent poster said "In the years since I learned about these tunnels, I've found that there are a small but influential group of people in city and county government here who are determined to keep our history a big secret from our citizens and visitors."

This is an odd observation, considering most cities are most definitely interested in promoting their histories to garner the interest from residents and visitors!
The resistance of city and county government people in Brownwood TX, who are determined to keep it's history a big secret, actually are people determined to keep the manhole covers to the entrances to these "tunnels" tightly in place.

Fran
 

Rollie Taylor said:
"It's too bad you quoted "Jesse Lee James", a con man and a liar."

Alec,
Too much tunnel gas can be fatal; lesser amounts impair judgment.
Rollie, as most residents of Brownwood TX are aware, the "huge event" has lost so much interest and participation that this is said to be the last year it will be held.

Fran
 

I was quoting Jesse W. James as he was quoted by Orvus Lee Howk (aka Jesse Lee James). I feel sure, Rollie, that were Howk alive to defend himself, he could more accurately say the same about you.

"a con man and a liar."

~Texas Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bloodybillandersonmystery
 

Although I can't prove it I highly doubt that Jesse W. James ever said ANYTHING that was in any of Howk's books. I would say that all of that came directly from the imagination of Howk. He did after all imagine himself into the James family.
 

Texas Jay said:
I was quoting Jesse W. James as he was quoted by Orvus Lee Howk (aka Jesse Lee James). I feel sure, Rollie, that were Howk alive to defend himself, he could more accurately say the same about you.

"a con man and a liar."

~Texas Jay



~~Texas~Jay~~

Thanks for crediting me with the wisdom of Alec. Then again, it might have just been the after effects of sewer gas in the KGC tunnels under downtown Brownwood that confused you.
 

alec said:
Although I can't prove it I highly doubt that Jesse W. James ever said ANYTHING that was in any of Howk's books. I would say that all of that came directly from the imagination of Howk. He did after all imagine himself into the James family.

Alec,

Quoting from Alice in Wonderland,

"If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?"

Remind you of anyone?
Rollie
 

Fran, I must ask you where in the world are you getting your information about my hometown of Brownwood, Texas???

"Rollie, as most residents of Brownwood TX are aware, the "huge event" has lost so much interest and participation that this is said to be the last year it will be held.

Fran"

You must have gotten this notion from the same source that you get your faulty genealogies from. :laughing9: Everyone I've spoken to in this town, who should know, have said that this year's Reunion Celebration will be the most successful of all of the previous Reunions. Visitors are already filling local hotels and our country radio station's dj said just today that they've sold a huge number of tickets for Kevin Fowler's concert and, these are his words to Kevin Fowler not mine: "You are going to have a huge crowd". This dj should know because his station has been selling tickets to the concert like crazy.
Why is it that your partner Clay Riley picked this weekend to close off his Genealogy and History Annex on the square to the public? :coffee2:

http://bloodybillanderson.webs.com
 

Texas Jay said:
Fran, I must ask you where in the world are you getting your information about my hometown of Brownwood, Texas???

"Rollie, as most residents of Brownwood TX are aware, the "huge event" has lost so much interest and participation that this is said to be the last year it will be held.

Fran"

You must have gotten this notion from the same source that you get your faulty genealogies from. :laughing9: Everyone I've spoken to in this town, who should know, have said that this year's Reunion Celebration will be the most successful of all of the previous Reunions. Visitors are already filling local hotels and our country radio station's dj said just today that they've sold a huge number of tickets for Kevin Fowler's concert and, these are his words to Kevin Fowler not mine: "You are going to have a huge crowd". This dj should know because his station has been selling tickets to the concert like crazy.
Why is it that your partner Clay Riley picked this weekend to close off his Genealogy and History Annex on the square to the public? :coffee2:

http://bloodybillanderson.webs.com
~~Minnesota~Jay~~~

Ah yes. Faulty genealogy. Tell us again how you know William C. "Uncle Billy" Anderson of Brown County, TX, was William T. "Bloody Bill" Anderson, who was killed 26 October 1864, in Missouri. And don't forget to explain how you know J. Frank Dalton was THE Jesse Woodson James. And why no one should ever question the word of that famous truth teller, Orvus Lee Howk, aka Jesse Lee James, aka Jesse James III, And how you know Jesse James, Frank James, and Cole Younger came to Brownwood to visit Uncle Billy Anderson.
 

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