JESSE CAPEN ; What lead him to his search area?

[Oroblanco]

Hal wrote

“May the sun bring you new energy by day. May the moon softly restore you by night. May the rain wash away your worries. May the breeze blow new strength into your being. May you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of your life.”

That is a beautiful blessing. Found a quote direct from Jesse too if you would like to add it to the options, which was:

"The end is the beginning."

He had posted it in another forum.

Roy

 

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[pippinwhitepaws]

Navajo Blessing Way Prayer



In beauty may I walk.


All day long may I walk.


Through the returning seasons may I walk.


On the trail marked with pollen may I walk.


With grasshoppers about my feet may I walk.


With dew about my feet may I walk.


With beauty may I walk.


With beauty before me, may I walk.


With beauty behind me, may I walk.


With beauty above me, may I walk.


With beauty below me, may I walk.


With beauty all around me, may I walk.


In old age wandering on a trail of beauty, lively, may I walk.


In old age wandering on a trail of beauty, living again, may I walk.


It is finished in beauty.


It is finished in beauty

 

[Hal Croves]

Navajo Blessing Way Prayer



In beauty may I walk.


All day long may I walk.


Through the returning seasons may I walk.


On the trail marked with pollen may I walk.


With grasshoppers about my feet may I walk.


With dew about my feet may I walk.


With beauty may I walk.


With beauty before me, may I walk.


With beauty behind me, may I walk.


With beauty above me, may I walk.


With beauty below me, may I walk.


With beauty all around me, may I walk.


In old age wandering on a trail of beauty, lively, may I walk.


In old age wandering on a trail of beauty, living again, may I walk.


It is finished in beauty.


It is finished in beauty

It has my vote.
What about in Navaho?
Is that possible?

 

[RangeroftheNorth]

...The Grim Reaper, among others...............
Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. apologies for the seemingly improper display.

Its the "other(s)" that I am concerned with..not the GR.....

 

[RangeroftheNorth]

Something that has been bothering me. When I am hiking I almost always have my pack secured and cinched tightly on my back. Now I understand that a fall of 75feet in rocky terrain can wreak havoc, but would that cause a pack to come loose from a body? Id think that the pack would be found on the body. Just speculating here.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

Dineh (Navajo) Home Page

I can not find an athabaskan version of the blessing way...I will keep looking...
I like the NASA and the Navajo story...lol

 

[Springfield]

Something that has been bothering me. When I am hiking I almost always have my pack secured and cinched tightly on my back. Now I understand that a fall of 75feet in rocky terrain can wreak havoc, but would that cause a pack to come loose from a body? Id think that the pack would be found on the body. Just speculating here.

Going down is always more difficult than going up. If he was descending in a particularly tight and nasty location, he may have removed the pack for better mobility. Then, trying to control himself and the pack, he could have fallen. Like you, I'm just speculating - although I have found myself in such a situation before.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

why do people who get hit by cars loose their shoes?

 

[markmar]

Springfield

Is wrong to remove the pack . The pack become a part of your body . For mobility control , consciously or subconsciously , we use the hands . And for a better way , we must use a stick .

 

[Springfield]

Springfield

Is wrong to remove the pack . The pack become a part of your body . For mobillity control , consciously or subconsciously , we use the hands . And for a better way , we must use a stick .

Have you ever tried to squeeze between rocks too close together to allow for a pack on your back? You remove the pack, tie on your nylon strap or length of rope, and either haul the pack behind you travelling up, or lower the pack ahead of you going down. A strong argument against this is that you should not find yourself in such a predicament, but ... hey ... stuff happens and you need to be prepared to deal with it.

 

[markmar]

Have you ever tried to squeeze between rocks too close together to allow for a pack on your back? You remove the pack, tie on your nylon strap or length of rope, and either haul the pack behind you travelling up, or lower the pack ahead of you going down. A strong argument against this is that you should not find yourself in such a predicament, but ... hey ... stuff happens and you need to be prepared to deal with it.

If you must to remove the pack to squeeze between rocks , maybe you are in a wrong and dangerous trail . The hiking in the mountains has techniques . Is not a simple walk . Is good everybody who wants to hike in the mountains , to take some hiking and survival lessons from a hiking instructor .

 

[cactusjumper]

If you must to remove the pack to squeeze between rocks , maybe you are in a wrong and dangerous trail . The hiking in the mountains has techniques . Is not a simple walk . Is good everybody who wants to hike in the mountains , to take some hiking and survival lessons from a hiking instructor .

Marius,

For anyone who has searched for mines/treasure in the Superstition Mountains, the highlighted portion of your post shows that you have never done your own search (boots on the ground) in the Supe's. On the other hand, taking some hiking/mountain climbing and survival lessons is always good advise.

Take care,

Joe

 

[Springfield]

If you must to remove the pack to squeeze between rocks , maybe you are in a wrong and dangerous trail . The hiking in the mountains has techniques . Is not a simple walk . Is good everybody who wants to hike in the mountains , to take some hiking and survival lessons from a hiking instructor .

I don't often hike trails, but when I do, it's the 'wrong and dangerous' ones I prefer. In lieu of hiking lessons, I'll rely on my 45 or 50 years of off-trail experience to get me back to the truck.

 

[markmar]

I don't often hike trails, but when I do, it's the 'wrong and dangerous' ones I prefer. In lieu of hiking lessons, I'll rely on my 45 or 50 years of off-trail experience to get me back to the truck.

I wish you good luck in your off-trail hikes .

 

[markmar]

Marius,

For anyone who has searched for mines/treasure in the Superstition Mountains, the highlighted portion of your post shows that you have never done your own search (boots on the ground) in the Supe's. On the other hand, taking some hiking/mountain climbing and survival lessons is always good advise.

Take care,

Joe

Joe

Don't forget how all those who claimed a mine in the Supes , went to their mines riding and carried mule packs . Is better to follow their trails . To use an own trail is very dangerous and this don't make you more brave .

 

[Springfield]

I wish you good luck in your off-trail hikes .

Here's a tip for back-country explorers: the better the trail, the less likely you'll find the good stuff on it.

 

[cactusjumper]

Joe

Don't forget how all those who claimed a mine in the Supes , went to their mines riding and carried mule packs . Is better to follow their trails . To use an own trail is very dangerous and this don't make you more brave .

Marius,

You need to do a lot more research, and spend some time in the Superstitions. After 40-50 years, I will take your advise.

Take care,

Joe

 

[roadrunner]

Something that has been bothering me. When I am hiking I almost always have my pack secured and cinched tightly on my back. Now I understand that a fall of 75feet in rocky terrain can wreak havoc, but would that cause a pack to come loose from a body? Id think that the pack would be found on the body. Just speculating here.

Not if he was taking it off and when placing on the ground bent over he stood up to fast,got dizzy, and then fell with his hands still on the straps.
A friend and I where hiking in an area last week,by a wash that had small pockets of water,or pools,and also places that had just dried up but the sides where still damp.
I stopped right away and told him we had better go around because right in front of me was about 20 big yellow ground hornets on the damp watered dirt. So there must have been a nest nearby. Could Jesse have stirred up a nest?
My wife and I where hiking around Superior,on a trail. I saw an opening in a cliff,wall on the side of us,behind some bushes.
So I went in to investigate,stirring up some honey bee;s.Well,I told here to run back down the hill. As she was running she put her head down as the bee's where stinging here in the back of the head in her hair.
Think a minute,her head was held downward and she was running forward. Not good to do in the mountains. But I had my eyes on her and was helping her.
Could this have happened to Jesse.

 

[somehiker]

Not likely a run in with bees. Few, if any,active in December.
A pack would be removed by a head-first fall and impact.

Regards:SH.

 

[393stroker]

It could have very well went down that way RR.