Its cracked, nearly broken in two, and a complete mystery to me. A coin for sure

[beez0404]

It's cracked, nearly broken in two, and a complete mystery to me. A coin for sure

I found this yesterday in a farm field in upstate NY. Okay, that's not exactly true. I found it in October when Smittyman and I made our trip to NY. I've been soaking it and lightly brushing it since then trying to see if I could bring out any more detail. This appears to be as good as it's gonna get. It's too fragile to do much with it. It is virtually the same size as a memorial penny. This is paper thin and I cannot see any detail left on the back if there was any.

I figure someone on here will be able to venture an educated guess or nail it on the head what this is. What do you guys think?

 

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[UnderMiner]

Wow, an old bootleg gold piece! See, counterfeiting is nothing new!

 

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[pepperj]

Wow, an old bootleg gold piece! See, counterfeiting is nothing new!

So true, folks have doing it for over 2000 yrs now.

 

[Wildcat1750]

What a unique find! Might be harder to find than a real $2.5 gold coin.

 

[beez0404]

What a unique find! Might be harder to find than a real $2.5 gold coin.

I would have to disagree as I've found this but have not found a $2.5 gold coin......LOL

 

[flatbutton]

Pretty cool man! I like it

 

[treblehunter]

Counterfeit find for sure, just like tokens, it is a rarer find than the real coin. Real coins were minted in much higher numbers. I bet it had a nice gilt when it was first lost. That's probably why its cracked, people bit them to see if they were malleable, nice find, it caused jelliousness in Carolina Tom's heart. Which, between you two, makes it a high winner again for you!

 

[Carolina Tom]

Did you try peeling back the gold to see if it has chocolate in the center?

 

[Sobo]

That's a neat find, counterfeits are fun to find. But at the same time...you wish you found a real one. I found a counterfeit 1895 O Barber quarter and was upset it was a counterfeit, then I realized it's almost just as neat as the real deal. Good job on finding that counterfeit and HH

 

[Ahab8]

So let me ask you my friend. Are you feeling better about finding a counterfeit gold coin? Do you think it's cooler than the real thing? I have a feeling you don't. And I wouldn't either. Granted some counterfeits are much better to find than the real deal a gold coin would not be one of them to me.
But it is still a VERY cool find and a great addition to any collection. The best part is that you kept at that thing until you were able to get a probable id. So my hats off to you buddy for not giving up. 2015 holds great things for you. I just looked into my magic 8 ball lol. You're going to get on some incredible sites in the spring

 

[MANFROMCLAD01]

i could just see that guy's face when he realized hed been taken and chucked that coin! lol

 

[Yard Digger]

So let me ask you my friend. Are you feeling better about finding a counterfeit gold coin? Do you think it's cooler than the real thing? I have a feeling you don't. And I wouldn't either. Granted some counterfeits are much better to find than the real deal a gold coin would not be one of them to me.
But it is still a VERY cool find and a great addition to any collection. The best part is that you kept at that thing until you were able to get a probable id. So my hats off to you buddy for not giving up. 2015 holds great things for you. I just looked into my magic 8 ball lol. You're going to get on some incredible sites in the spring

Congratulations Beez! IMO you have a great find. At first I was thinking I would be disappointed with a counterfeit gold coin, but after reading these posts I'v sorta changed my mind. A rare counterfeit gold might be of great worth to a collector, but on the other hand, not being gold it wouldn't have the value from the weight the gold coin would bring. Therefore I would have a mix of disappointment and excitement both with such a find. HH this new year to you and all and hopefully someday your detector will turn up the real Mccoy.

 

[beez0404]

So let me ask you my friend. Are you feeling better about finding a counterfeit gold coin? Do you think it's cooler than the real thing? I have a feeling you don't. And I wouldn't either. Granted some counterfeits are much better to find than the real deal a gold coin would not be one of them to me.
But it is still a VERY cool find and a great addition to any collection. The best part is that you kept at that thing until you were able to get a probable id. So my hats off to you buddy for not giving up. 2015 holds great things for you. I just looked into my magic 8 ball lol. You're going to get on some incredible sites in the spring

Abe are you still wanting to hunt on my property up in Maine? If so I'll be sure to give you the caretaker's information.

I've been doing a bit of research for our trip this spring and have found what I hope are some good potential spots.

With regard to the counterfeit coin. I was finding so little on that trip I was just happy to find something interesting.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Could be an early diplomatic button

That's the first thing that came to mind for me as well. But scanning through the Albert's book I don't see anything that exactly matches up with the pic.

 

[smittyman]

Did you try peeling back the gold to see if it has chocolate in the center?

I want to add one detail that Jay hasn't mentioned. The coin we're speaking of is not a flat disc as is a normal coin. It's one of three pieces that made up the original coin. The piece that he has is shaped like the top half (or bottom half) of the gold foil in the 2nd image that Tom added with the chocolate wrapped in gold. As though when it came apart it split around the middle of the edge. It's like to me that some base metal (maybe lead) was in inside the piece - represented by the chocolate here - to give it the weight of gold and then some other metal maybe even a very low grade of gold was molded around it. When it split these two pieces were lost. In a farm field who knows where it wound up.

One prob with the low grade gold theory is that it's not gold in color. It's also thicker than foil.

I hope that I haven't muddied the waters here but that this adds enough that a light will go on inside someone's head.

 

[Carolina Tom]

I want to add one detail that Jay hasn't mentioned. The coin we're speaking of is not a flat disc as is a normal coin. It's one of three pieces that made up the original coin. The piece that he has is shaped like the top half (or bottom half) of the gold foil in the 2nd image that Tom added with the chocolate wrapped in gold. As though when it came apart it split around the middle of the edge. It's like to me that some base metal (maybe lead) was in inside the piece - represented by the chocolate here - to give it the weight of gold and then some other metal maybe even a very low grade of gold was molded around it. When it split these two pieces were lost. In a farm field who knows where it wound up.

One prob with the low grade gold theory is that it's not gold in color. It's also thicker than foil.

I hope that I haven't muddied the waters here but that this this adds enough that a light will go on inside someone's head.

I sincerely apologize Jay...

 

[gunsil]

Did you try peeling back the gold to see if it has chocolate in the center?

Man, I found some of those that a kid had refilled with mud and buried in a school yard. I thought I had really hit it when I first saw them.

 

[treblehunter]

I want to add one detail that Jay hasn't mentioned. The coin we're speaking of is not a flat disc as is a normal coin. It's one of three pieces that made up the original coin. The piece that he has is shaped like the top half (or bottom half) of the gold foil in the 2nd image that Tom added with the chocolate wrapped in gold. As though when it came apart it split around the middle of the edge. It's like to me that some base metal (maybe lead) was in inside the piece - represented by the chocolate here - to give it the weight of gold and then some other metal maybe even a very low grade of gold was molded around it. When it split these two pieces were lost. In a farm field who knows where it wound up.

One prob with the low grade gold theory is that it's not gold in color. It's also thicker than foil.

I hope that I haven't muddied the waters here but that this adds enough that a light will go on inside someone's head.

I sincerely apologize Jay...

Man, I found some of those that a kid had refilled with mud and buried in a school yard. I thought I had really hit it when I first saw them.

I found three of those gold chocolate coins on three separate days at the lake this past summer, one was still intact to the point there were two halfs left, but no chocolate left inside.

 

[Old Dude]

Wait a second! Didn't they make some doubloons with terrible tasting bubble gum too? Hmmm...

 

[jolteon]

Very unique!! Even if it is a counterfeit I wish you luck that you find a real one soon! It is still a GREAT FIND!!!! Happy Hunting!!!
Jolteon

 

[65chevy]

I wonder if it was a part of a old watch fob. Maybe? ?


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