Iron spear head

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Hi all! Hav'nt posted here in awhile, glad to be back! Anyhow, I posted this in the whatsit section and "todays finds" and a few seem to think it is a trade arrow/spearhead, possibly that the French traded with? I live near Lacross and Praire Du Chien area in Wisconsin, so I know there were french fur traders here, and I suppose it is possible. But I would like to know what some of you think about it, so im posting it here. Please let me know of any doubts about it or whether or not any of you think that's what it might be. I read ALOT of your posts and know many of you know your stuff very well so I value your opinions! Thanks for looking and keep diggin! 1356556926312.jpg1356556960059.jpg1356556969606.jpg1356556984048.jpg1356557002743.jpg1356557159033.jpg1356557134377.jpg1356557123665.jpg1356557103518.jpg1356557179823.jpg1356557171403.jpg<----Last two are with the point down looking at the base. Sorry the pics arent great, my good camera is broken, so I had to use my phone. =(
 

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All of the tobacco here is still pulled by hand. This may be a long shot, but, why wouldn't or couldn't this piece be an artifact left by vikings?
To me, that does seem far fetched lol! No offense!! If it were from that long ago, wouldnt it be about rotted away? Did vikings even make it to the Mississipi river? I would die if I found something viking! But I find it hard to believe this came from vikings! Who knows? I've been wrong about stuff before!
 

People took all sorts of things made of iron and putt them on grinding wheels. That could have served any number of purposes on a farm. Mabey it was a hand made replacement part. I guess I just feel that's alot more likely. If I found a sharpened piece of Iron on farmland the last thing I would think is Native American. The French made alot of quick crude copper spear points for trade. They made them mostly rolled in a conical shape. Just my thoughts.
 

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To me, that does seem far fetched lol! No offense!! If it were from that long ago, wouldnt it be about rotted away? Did vikings even make it to the Mississipi river? I would die if I found something viking! But I find it hard to believe this came from vikings! Who knows? I've been wrong about stuff before!

I know that the natives did a nice job kicking Viking butt. As far as the Mississippi being their finish line, I'm not sure. I know very limited Viking history. I do know they found that ruin carved in stone, that was suppose to be Viking related. However, lots of controversy on that one. Like I said, shot in the dark. I try to never let a possibility slide by, for my sake and every one else. You are more than likely closer to the truth than I am.
 

Some French trade Items.

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The Spanish made many also

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Good question on the fence spike. They did make them sharp and I even have seen people put broken glass on walls. But Kruger posted a link that looks just like it but just not as long. You should look at his post. It is interesting never the less. Hope you get a good answer.
 

Now maybe it is spanish......Desoto?
 

Just a question...If it were a harrow tooth, wouldnt it be alot more dull? It is VERY sharp. I would think being drug through "stony soil" would make it more smooth on the edges, not razor sharp. I not denying that it cant be part of a farm implement, but I'm not convenced that its is a harrow tooth. I've never seen a harrow tooth that I could shave the hair off my arm with...

Good point ! I still bet its a piece off a machine of some sort.
 

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I do think you have something but cannot put my hand on it. Not part of a harrow or cicle blade ( how ever you spell it) dont think its a cultivator shovel too sharp like you said. I have never seen any trade point like it. Might have been something a black smith made up for a spear or fence post top ( but dont think it would be that sharp) But like otheres have said no haftingspots. I think it was longer and broke off maybe not. I would keep it though.
Happy Hunting
 

I have been on hog hunts with pit bull dogs, and the hog was speared with something like that. Just a thought!
 

I just want to point out... that's a classified ad of someone selling something...................... for 279 dollars. Lying next to... an office Depot ruler.
Yea,I didnt even read its provenance actually,just the shape,the one in question possibly being broke?
 

I have been on hog hunts with pit bull dogs, and the hog was speared with something like that. Just a thought!
A HUGE wild boar was killed a few years ago, not 3 miles from where I found this, at an apple orchard.
 

Yea,I didnt even read its provenance actually,just the shape,the one in question possibly being broke?
Like I said before, the base of it does not look like it was broken to me. If anything, it looks like it was "pinched" off or something, IF it was a part of something else...If I can get a better camera I will take a better pic of the base. There is actually a "ridge" that goes the length of the base, dont know if anyone can see it from my pics. Tommorow I will ask my sister if I can borrow her super nice camera lol! To me... if it was take off something else like a fence post or whatever, it looks like it was pinched off somehow, IF that makes any sense. I dont know how else to describe it. OH! I feel dumb...lol I just now realize you are talking about the classified ad, not my whatsit I found. (sorry bout that!)
 

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Untitled.pngHere is an absolutly horrid picture of what I am saying about the base lol!
 

Look up Spartan Spear. Google pics for that, and you will probably have an answer. Is their an open season on wild boar in your area?
 

I know the Indian were hammering out any metals they could get into ancient shaped tools they were used to. If a farm harrow that metal is cast right? Cast steel? I have no idea either. The metal will be the clue I bet.
 

Looks like a black smith made trade point, the shank appears to be indented from both sides with a chisel , then folded until broken off. Being somewhat diamond shaped in cross section and as sharp as it is lends itself more to a weapon than an agricultural implement. IMHO
 

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