Interesting thread about Ace performance vs the others

[Larsmed]

Hey guys


After reading this article I am ready to get another machine. If you are a serious treasure hunter who does not want to dig everything, you might want to check this out..

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,118884.0/topicseen.html

Larry

 

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[robert roy]

Hi Larry:

I went to the link you recommended. I was struck by the one individual who was completelly pissed about the Ace 250.

Seems to me some of the people there were compareing apples to oranges. The Ace IS a nice machine for anyone, beginner or old timer alike. But its a mistake in my opinion to compare it to the more expensive machines. That is where the problem rests, in my opinion, because some people are going to buy it thinking they can cut corners and get a machine that can do everything (or close to everything) a more expensive machine can do. The Ace is good but its not THAT good. Damn, I wish it were.
I have an MXT that dances circles around the Ace.

Interesting link though. Thanks for posting it.

Robert R

 

[melvin_it]

HI there,

Agree with u Robert. I have the ACE since one year, I don't know a lot about the other detectors but hardly could say that this is not the best in his category and quite perfect for beginner or experienced backup. ACE doesn't have the features of a high costly detector but have much more for it's price...Just think that he compares with Prizm IV and it's just $ 200 more, and ACE blows it out at all.

I probably will buy a better machine like M6 or Land Ranger, but would never say ACE is "a toy" or "a door stand" cause it performs less than them! And would never go out without my ACE.

ACE supremacy!!!

M.

 

[Larsmed]

yeah

The poster of that thread mentions the ace as being a "toy" and left in the closet...I do not agree with those words, however I do believe he brung up some valid points atleast for those who want to save some digging time.

I am going to either get a sniper to see if it improves, or if that dont work, get a Tesoro


Larry

 

[khouse]

The Ace 250 is not a toy. TID detectors will miss lead someone into NOT digging a target. This is why a "beep dig" hunter with the disc set at zero will always produce more nice finds. Yes they will have more trash but most jewelry is in the trash TID zones. I have had expensive detectors and have hunted for almost 24 years. The less target info you get the more you will dig. That lets your eyes be the real discriminator. I like TID units for the coin cruise method where I don't have a lot of time. But when I do have time and want some cool finds I notch out iron and dig anything that beeps. The only thing the 250 doesn't have is an adjustable GB. That's about it. There's tons of preset GB machines that get the job done. Turn your 250 into a beep dig machine with some masking tape (put some paper under it so it doesn't stick to the screen) and give it a good day and see what you get? Could be a pouch full of trash or jewelry - who knows?

 

[BuckleBoy]

The Ace 250 is not a toy. TID detectors will miss lead someone into NOT digging a target. This is why a "beep dig" hunter with the disc set at zero will always produce more nice finds. Yes they will have more trash but most jewelry is in the trash TID zones. I have had expensive detectors and have hunted for almost 24 years. The less target info you get the more you will dig. That lets your eyes be the real discriminator. I like TID units for the coin cruise method where I don't have a lot of time. But when I do have time and want some cool finds I notch out iron and dig anything that beeps. The only thing the 250 doesn't have is an adjustable GB. That's about it. There's tons of preset GB machine that get the job done. Turn your 250 into a beep dig machine with some masking tape (put some paper under it so it doesn't stick to the screen) and give it a good day and see what you get? Could be a pouch full of trash or jewelry - who knows?

I agree with this wholeheartedly! I have two machines--and neither of them have a meter of any sort. I've done well over the past 15 years. I've used TID or VID detectors like the XLT before, and I agree with khouse 100%.

Well said.


-Buckleboy

 

[Murph]

The ace is a fine entry level machine with a lot of bang for the buck. Its a fantastic coin shooter when ground conditions dont give it any problems.

I think its biggest problem lays in the fact that it is many peoples first detector and a wow factor sets. I know its unintentional but many times the ace is hyped past the point of its capabilities by new comers who have not compared it to other higher end machines or encountered less than ideal ground conditions that can make the aces shortcomings glaringly apparent.

Garrett designates it as a entry level coin shooter and thats what it is.

 

[ivan salis]

the ace 250 is by far best in its price class (200 - 400 class) for $400 bucks full loaded with both the 4.5 inch sniper and the larger coil plus goodies - you have a strong lil light in wieght machine that is go getter -- now to compare it to a $600 buck M6 is a bit unfair to be honest --- you would not compare a $20,000 car to a $30,000 one and expect them yo be in the same "class" same would you ? or a $100,000 house and a $150,000 --- so why would expect if from a detector? --- but for $400 to get a full dressed decent detector with all the extra coils and goodies package for what most folks use detectors for --is a good deal in my book -- Ivan

 

[~MetalDigger~]

Well the UPS Lady brought my 9X12 coil, and the 4.5 sniper coil, shure wish I was'nt under the weather, and the wind was'nt blowing 40 mph's I shure like to give the Old Ace 250 a whirle, with the huge 9X12. I air tested my ace with the 9x12 on a penny with 7 notchs of sensitivty, and I got a reading of 8" or more. Not to bad, only got a reading of a little over 4" with the sniper, But hey thats ok, it's for tight spots, with plenty of trash.

And I know some think the ace's are toys, But if your haveing fun with it, and finding things, money ect, in a sence their all toys if your haveing fun.

 

[Larsmed]

Hey

I have realized now that the Ace is a good begginer detector for the price definitely. However, if they had made this machine with manual GB, it would have been even better..and yes probably more expensive too..lol!

Larry

 

[ivan salis]

differant way to help "manually" balance (sort of )--- lower the sen up the disc ---same basic effect ---loses a bit of depth in the process --but it can smooth it out and make into a "can do"--- rather than a "can't do" machine -- cuz sometimes you have use what you got --- Ivan

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

Anyone who's fustrated or pissed off with any detector can call it a POS or toy. The ACE 250 is far from that. Surely it may not work in every location because of its fixed GB, and that would also be the case with many detectors in that price range that have a fixed GB, but aside from that, the machine is very capable if you take the time to learn it. It has many of what I'll label "Dark arts". Little bits and pieces of tricks that you will learn along the way and use to your advantage. In any event, the ACE will be picking up coins and other things in the range where you're likely to find them. I've found about twenty of this year's silver coins with my 250..........took it on a clad hunt one day in it's retired role as a clad machine and it found three more silver coins. People can trash the machine all they want. Show me their finds and I could show them mine with that machine.

 

[The-Bone]

anytime something becomes popular their are naysayers. I have never found any coin deeper than 6" with my eagle 2. The other thing you must consider is that for every Tesoro sold, there are probably 20 Aces' sold. For every 19 happy customers there is 1 disgruntled individual. IMO it is a completet crock of s**t that ANY detector costs more than $500. They are all using 25 year old technology. It is transmit and receive. The only thing that has happened within electronics is that stuff has gotten smaller and cheaper. Why do you think manufacturers have 3 'different' models all using the same housings and motherboards. The guts are the same..the software is all that differentiates them. If Garrett wanted to rule the market all they would have to do is offer the Ace with a manual GB for $100 more.

 

[ivan salis]

my lil ace 250 hit a paper thin gold 625 (14 K) mexican made kiddie ring about 4 in down in a plug that was cut by my freind david cowart --- now its just time to get bigger & better thats all --- Ivan

 

[khouse]

Let's face it. Most coin and jewelry finds are no more than 6 inches deep. That's what I hunt. Why in my moderate soil do I need a $1000.00 detector? I don't. I have had those upper end detectors and most were heavy or complicated plus expensive. There are a lot of very good detectors on the market for around $200.00. They do the job. I have said all along that if Garrett offered a 250 pro model with GB then they would be building yet another facility. I think most major manufacturers have proved that a powerful $200.00 detector is a reality. So the first major manufacturer that can hit the market with a light weight TID detector for $250 or less will be set for years to come.

 

[ivan salis]

an ideal machine ---a 250 ish small light weight machine type machine with a easy to see "numbers" type display and a manual ground balance option (for hard conditions) together sniper coil / big coil combo for $400 bucks --- you' ld sell em like hot cakes --- Ivan

 

[monsterrd]

I have had my ace for 2 months, over 500 coins,5 rings, countless charms,and tokens. I love it, I was swingin a whites, and it was very heavy,like swinging a club with a car battery attached to it, A couple of my friends use other detectors, it's all about what you can do, I beat them most every time and can detect longer.I even go over areas they have allready been and still find things they missed, it's not a $1000.00 detector, but it is fine for me. give it a chance,turn the sensitivity down and in the long run I think you will be happy, if not you could probably sell it for close to what you paid for it.