Oh heck we can trust everyone reading this stuff right? I will let you in on the secret location - and DON'T tell anyone OK? [It is in ARIZONA!
Now SHHHHH! Keep that important detail secret at all costs!
That is a REALLY big pin, or a really small map.
Coffee for Don Jose? beverage of your choice, Oro? I promise I won't use this information to go looking for it. I'm too busy looking for Peg Legs gold in SoCal.
JB
And please keep that detail about the secret location of where Loke, Mrs O and I have been searching, I know how good some people are at zooming in on a map or photo and that map (posted above) shows the exact spot! Unfortunately it has nothing to do with this topic whatsoever, there is no link to Jesuits in any way shape or form. So I will quit talking about it here. 
All These c ordinances are named for the earliest Explores like Cristo Draconi ,Hola sdcfia
My main stomping ground is the Pacific. Generally Southern Cross pointers in South pacific and Big dipper and pole star in Northern Pacific. That and old Polynesian navigation methods wind and waves and birds. Trouble is in higher polar or lower arctic regions is bad weather for sighting stars at night at sea. Even for compass bearings the closer to the poles in general the larger the magnetic variations to the compass. Thankfully it is still a requirement still for all masters and mates to be familiar with celestial navigation and remains as a requirement for their certificate of competency..
That said these days I am afraid I am rather lazy these days of GPS as my marine chronometer calculations are never as accurate as Global positioning System which can place you on the earth surface with in 3 meters. Although I still keep a marine chronometer as back up although I would Probably be out by more than a mile or two.
Celestial navigation is the use of angular measurements (sights) between celestial bodies and the visible horizon to locate one's position on the globe, on land as well as at sea. At a given time, any celestial body is located directly over one point on the Earth's surface. The latitude and longitude of that point is known as the celestial body’s geographic position (GP), the location of which can be determined from tables in the Nautical or Air Almanac for that year.
However you do pose a very intriguing question?
The North Ecliptic Pole is in Draco. Due to precession, the celestial pole moves in a circle around the ecliptic poles once every 25,800 years.
The ecliptic poles are (as of epoch 1 January 2000) at: (North) right ascension 18h 0m 0.0s (exact), declination +66° 33′ 38.55″
The orientation of the Earth's axis and equator are not fixed in space, but rotate about the poles of the ecliptic with a period of about 25,800 years, a process known as lunisolar precession, as it is due mostly to the gravitational effect of the Moon and Sun on the Earth's equatorial bulge. Likewise, the ecliptic itself is not fixed. The gravitational perturbations of the other bodies of the Solar System cause a much smaller motion of the plane of the Earth's orbit, and hence of the ecliptic, known as planetary precession. The combined action of these two motions is called general precession, and changes the position of the equinoxes by about 50 arc seconds (about 0°.014) per year.
I do have an old book of tables some quite well worn if I can find it on the "Drumbeat"
Here is rough table not as precise as a nautical almanac which constantly needs to be updated.
No. Name Mag. S.H.A. Dec. No. Name Mag. S.H.A. Dec.
1 Alpheratz 2.2* 358 N.29 31 Gacrux 1.6 172# S. 57
2 Ankaa 2.4 354 S.42 32 Alioth 1.7 167 N. 56
3 Schedar 2.5* 350 N.56 33 Spica 1.2* 159# S. 11
4 Diphda 2.2 349# S.18 34 Alkaid 1.9 153 N. 49
5 Achernar 0.6 336# S.57 35 Hadar 0.9 149# S. 60
6 Hamal 2.2* 328 N.23 36 Menkent 2.3 149 S. 36
7 Acamar 3.1 316 S.40 37 Arcturus 0.2* 146# N. 19
8 Menkar 2.8 315 N. 4 38 Rigel Kentaurus 0.1 140# S. 61
9 Mirfac 1.9* 309 N.50 39 Zubenelgenubi 2.9* 138# S. 16
10 Aldebaran 1.1* 291# N.16 40 Kochab 2.2 137 N. 74
11 Rigel 0.3* 282# S. 8 41 Alpheca 2.3* 127 N. 27
12 Capella 0.2* 281 N.46 42 Antares 1.2* 113# S. 26
13 Bellatrix 1.7* 279# N. 6 43 Atria 1.9 108# S. 69
14 Elnath 1.8 279 N.29 44 Sabic 2.6 103 S. 16
15 Alnilam 1.8* 276# S. 1 45 Shaula 1.7 97# S. 37
16 Betelgeuse var.* 271# N. 7 46 Rasalhague 2.1 96 N. 13
17 Canopus -0.9 264# S.53 47 Eltanin 2.4 91 N. 51
18 Sirius -1.6* 259# S.17 48 Kaus Australis 2.0 84# S. 34
19 Adhara 1.6 256# S.29 49 Vega 0.1* 81 N. 39
20 Procyon 0.5* 245# N. 5 50 Nunki 2.1* 76# S. 26
21 Pollux 1.2* 244 N.28 51 Altair 0.9* 63# N. 9
22 Avior 1.7 234# S.59 52 Peacock 2.1 54# S. 57
23 Suhail 2.2 223 S.43 53 Deneb 1.3* 50 N. 45
24 Miaplacidus1.8 222# S.70 54 Enif 2.5 34 N. 10
25 Alphard 2.2 218# S. 9 55 Al Na'ir 2.2 28# S. 47
26 Regulus 1.3* 208# N.12 56 Fomalhaut 1.3 16# S. 30
27 Dubhe 2.0 194 N.62 57 Markab 2.6 14 N. 15
28 Denebola 2.2* 183# N.15
29 Gienah 2.8 176 S.17
30 Acrux 1.1 174# S.63
* = Stars that are prominent for observers in the Northern hemisphere.
# = Stars that are prominent for observers in the Southern hemisphere.
Var. = Variable star, mag. = 0.1 to 1.2
- Note that many stars are visible North and South of the equator.
Anyway I hope it is of some help? It late and Drumbeat sails at day break.
Oh if you are looking for magnetic compass bearing taken back in time you have to consult magnetic variation tables going back to that time frame especially in the extreme north and south regions. If your hunting down the exact position today of a past celestial observation with a marine Chronometer taken from certain star in polar sky. You would have hunt down old tables of the that time and compare present table.
Browns Nautical Almanac is now in its 138th year of publication. Any almanac before 1883 is rare as hens teeth.
Kanacki
HAY now amigo don't forget to fill up me mug with some of that java - and hopefully it was brewed with the "right" sock!
Pegleg huh? Have hunted that myself, along with Mrs Oro and another partner, unsuccessfully. Have been thinking of talking to Loke about it too, although it is a very large area to hunt, I am 100% convinced the story is true, in its basic facts. Good luck amigo and I hope that when you find Pegleg's black gold, you will sell me a tiny nugget? One with some black crust still on it of course.
Good luck and good hunting amigos I hope you find the treasures that you seek - and thanks in advance to everyone reading this for your keeping that detailed location map a secret for us!
Oroblanco
See Oro? I told you that your secret location is safe in here
See Oro? I told you that your secret location is safe in here
I couldn't agree more!! :-)
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I acutally saw that when I was in the Nave, and then we sailed through the middle of Hurricane Buella(Not sure on spelling) in 1966. It was also a Macrel sky, the clouds looked like the scales on a fish, stacked up, row after row.Short stuf ===== Remember the old sailors bible,"Red sky at sunset, sailors delight, red sky in he morning a sailors mourning "
