Interesting metal ring.

[Garabaldi]

Any ideas? It seems old from the patina. Any ideas?

 

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[CRUSADER]

Probably not Celtic Ring money

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,272310.0.html

These rings have been used in the UK since Roman Times (maybe a bit before), for as many different uses as you could think off. No way to tell for sure which of the thousands of uses it might be

 

[turtlefoot13]

Probably not Celtic Ring money

 

[trikikiwi]

End of a pull chain
it seems to be worn on the internal diameter on one side only
Mike

 

[Silver Searcher]

Finding a exact use would be hard because they could be used for a lot of things, and at any time scale

But definitely not Celtic Ring Money, I would be loaded if they were here's a site that advertises Bronze Rings as currency. http://www.ancientresource.com/lots/celtic.html

SS

 

[wvcoindigger13]

Appears to possibly be part of a grommet from a canvas army tarp.

 

[Tuberale]

I second the grommet suggestion. To me, it looks nearly the same size as grommets on PVC tarps I just bought. Maybe a different metal content, but the size seems consistent.

BTW, nice to see the silver Roosy as a size comparison, Garibaldi.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Came across some very interesting imformation regarding these strange metal rings we all find, they could have been used for the making of The Dorset Button 1680s known as High tops and Nobs. Orginally the button was made on a Bone ring.

Its most likely that the rings with Chamfered sides like the examples shown are the type used for these embroidered buttons. The group of copper-alloy rings shown here show the different thickness's and sizes which Detectorist's come across and are used in these buttons. allot of these copper-alloy rings have been manufactured for many other purposes.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,272310.0.html

Not only were thread buttons less expensive than bone, wood or metal but they would not break during the strenuous beating and scrubbing. Unlike buttons made of other materials, thread buttons are soft and comfortable to lay against while sleeping.
During the early-to-mid-eighteenth century some such officers and official's are described as having worn buttons of embroidered gold or gilded metallic cord or thread. These buttons would have been either made with cut bone centres or with supporting circular metallic loops like those shown here right of picture. The loops formed circular frames around and over which could be sewn/ threaded or embroidered the knotted pattern of the buttons, the completed buttons would then be sewn to the uniform.

This type of embroidered button is known as the Dorset Button. The Dorset button began in Shaftesbury, Dorset probably between the years 1680 - 1700, The first buttons were known as "High Tops" and "knobs" and were made from a disc cut from Dorset Horn sheep.
The disc was covered by a small piece of material and worked with a needle and thread to make a conical shape or knob shape depending on the type of button required. The high-tops were worn by gentlemen on their hunting waistcoats and also used for ladies dresses, other types of buttons were then developed using copper wire twisted on a spindle with the ends cut and dipped in solder, children of both sexes were employed as "Winders & and Dippers" others threaded the rings and were called Stringers.
An alloy for the rings was invented and old buttons made, these rings show no signs of rust. There were three grades of ring the lower two grades were sold in this country. In 1850 a button making machine shown in the greta exhibition of London brought a tragic end to the industry. Another name used for these rings are fabric covered or thread cartwheel buttons.

SS

 

[Lucas]

Those were most commonly shirt buttons, and were shirt button size, i.e. little.

"Thread button" is usually used to describe buttons with a wound thread core.

"Dorset button" is usually used to describe buttons with a horn, metal etc. core.

Both types are covered by thread stitching or hitching.

"Death's head" buttons are made with a wooden or bone core that has a small hole in the middle (button mold/mould).

 

[Silver Searcher]

Those were most commonly shirt buttons, and were shirt button size, i.e. little.

"Thread button" is usually used to describe buttons with a wound thread core.

"Dorset button" is usually used to describe buttons with a horn, metal etc. core.

Both types are covered by thread stitching or hitching.

"Death's head" buttons are made with a wooden or bone core that has a small hole in the middle (button mold/mould).

The average size of these Dorset or Cartwheel buttons was 29mm external and 4mm width, a bit bigger than a shirt Button. 29mm average size would make the largest about 40mm, During the early-to-mid-eighteenth century some such officers and official's are described as having worn buttons of embroidered gold or gilded metallic cord or thread. These buttons would have been either made with cut bone centres or with supporting circular metallic loops like those shown here. The loops formed circular frames around and over which could be sewn/ threaded or embroidered the knotted pattern of the buttons, the completed buttons would then be sewn to the uniform.

SS

 

[Lucas]

Oh, interesting! My info is mid-to-late 18th and early 19th.

The thread core buttons just won't work in a large size. But you could go pretty big with a horn or metal ring. By mid to late century, the death's head was the fashion (2nd pic).

 

[Silver Searcher]

Oh, interesting! My info is mid-to-late 18th and early 19th.

The thread core buttons just won't work in a large size. But you could go pretty big with a horn or metal ring. By mid to late century, the death's head was the fashion (2nd pic).

It just makes sence about these rings, we find a lot over here and different sizes, most of them I have..... have the chamfered sides like the one's posted. I think the late 1700s date fits nicely also, with the one's found over there

SS

 

[shaun7]

Oh, interesting! My info is mid-to-late 18th and early 19th.

The thread core buttons just won't work in a large size. But you could go pretty big with a horn or metal ring. By mid to late century, the death's head was the fashion (2nd pic).

It just makes sence about these rings, we find a lot over here and different sizes, most of them I have..... have the chamfered sides like the one's posted. I think the late 1700s date fits nicely also, with the one's found over there

SS

You're right mate, it does make sense

 

[timekiller]

I'm going to say sparkplug ring Money!
I find them alot that look just like that.Around the water ways!

 

[Lucas]

The Celts made spark plugs in Dorsetshire?

 

[Silver Searcher]

I'm going to say sparkplug ring Money!
I find them alot that look just like that.Around the water ways!

I think we are looking for genuine replies didn't know they made spark plugs with a internal diameter of over a inch

SS

 

[timekiller]

I'm going to say sparkplug ring Money!
I find them alot that look just like that.Around the water ways!

I think we are looking for genuine replies didn't know they made spark plugs with a internal diameter of over a inch

SS

It had nothing to do with your post SS.I'm talking about his.And I see nothing saying his is one inch across.But I do know I find these big rings here on the coast that have come from old large sparkplugs.Just like these in my hand.

 

[Silver Searcher]

I'm going to say sparkplug ring Money!
I find them alot that look just like that.Around the water ways!

I think we are looking for genuine replies didn't know they made spark plugs with a internal diameter of over a inch

SS

It had nothing to do with your post SS.I'm talking about his.And I see nothing saying his is one inch across.But I do know I find these big rings here on the coast that have come from old large sparkplugs.Just like these in my hand.

They look nothing like the ones posted.

 

[Silver Searcher]

I have found a lot of these rings and would like to get to the bottom of the ID, obviously some rings have outher uses, but the one's posted in both threads with the chamfered sides are the one's I would like to find out about.
After all isn't this what the Whatsits thread is about

SS

 

[timekiller]

I'm on this post and this is what I see of his. Only his has been in a engine block at somtime.