Indian Pipe Bowl

[CreakyDigger]

I found this many moons ago when searching plowed fields along the Susquehanna River near the NY/PA border. Have always assumed that it was an Indian pipe bowl, but don't really know much about it. Comments by you who know much more than I are welcome. The site was thick with pottery pieces and sinker stones, and arrowheads could still be found.

 

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[Red_desert]

How’d you find it?

It was a surface find while looking for arrowheads.

Good place to search. One more note on pipe bowl size. SW smudge pipes are NOT the Chanunpa style but thick wide clay pipes which stem hole tapers to narrow. Chanunpa bowls can be very large (for tribal group ceremonies) or very small (personal, private, family ceremony). Traditionally, Chanunpa pipes were stored in large beaded buckskin pipe bags (stem removed) designed to carry bowl next to stem.

 

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[Gare]

A trade pipe maybe from Point Pleasant Pottery, circa 1838 - 1890​

Edit: If that piece has been glazed, then 20th century (I just now enlarged it and saw it is shiny).

It is shiny

 

[Gare]

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[joshuaream]

The first pipe in this thread doesn't look like a trade pipe to me, no seem and pretty thick walled. Late pre-historic / proto-historic native made pipe would be my guess. Charl posted a great candidate for the type/maker.

The other pipe is a "trade pipe" but most of those were simply used and sold to average settlers and users. Not really traded with natives all that frequently unless you find them out in the West or in Canada. If they are found in the Midwest, they generally came after the local Native groups had been relocated/reduced.

 

[CreakyDigger]

The first pipe in this thread doesn't look like a trade pipe to me, no seem and pretty thick walled. Late pre-historic / proto-historic native made pipe would be my guess. Charl posted a great candidate for the type/maker.

The other pipe is a "trade pipe" but most of those were simply used and sold to average settlers and users. Not really traded with natives all that frequently unless you find them out in the West or in Canada. If they are found in the Midwest, they generally came after the local Native groups had been relocated/reduced.

The first pipe I found while hunting for arrowheads and picking up pottery pieces in a plowed field. It is the site of a rather well-known Indian village in that area, near the convergence of the Chemung & Susquehanna rivers in northern PA. I'm confident that it is of native origin.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Thanks! I'm sure there are still things there...never thought of a trade pipe, cool. But I'm CreakyDigger for a reason...I'm not that mobile these days.

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