Indian Petroglyph possibly ?

[kentucky Quinn]

This is in back of one of the big caves on family land. Looks old to me thanks for looking





It’s probably 12 inches tall by 9 inches wide maybe. I need to take a good light up in there and investigate

 

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[civil_war22]

Is that on private property? I’d love to see that

It is, but I could take you to it. I know the guy who owns it, he grew up with my dad so he usually knows when I’m parked over there that that’s what I’m doing.

 

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[MosesOfTheSouth]

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Up under that to the right. Back wall in there

gosh. that is a beautiful spot, thanks for sharing.

also i look forward to when you hit "the thick of it" in your digging.

 

[Charl]

Your eyes are actually correct. The marking is raised like a concretion formed over the inscription as opposed to carved into wall

In that case, sounds like it could be an example of differential weathering.....

 

[Tnmountains]

I have seen raised markings from different minerals in overhangs before. Sometimes it looks like a slug went across the wall. It is usually a different mineral in the rock or a fossil. I have seen giant trilobites in the walls of rock shelters. It is a good summer site not so good if the wind is blowing that water fall. Enjoy should be full of tools.

 

[kentucky Quinn]

deleted. Figured the thread was about the petroglyph.

Finally had time to read both links you shared with me. Very interesting reads

 

[civil_war22]

Here’s the ones by our house that I sent photos of when it was dug in 1995. Now a pic of it today, it’s freaking sad that idiots have destroyed the red people, and carved their own names in it

 

[civil_war22]

The last photo is what happens when you invite new humans to a cultural site. Sad part about it is my family knew well beforehand about it before the U of A dug it and the folks in the 50’s

 

[civil_war22]

https://archeology.uark.edu/ozarkbluffshelters/archeological-sites/the-narrows/

 

[kentucky Quinn]

The last photo is what happens when you invite new humans to a cultural site. Sad part about it is my family knew well beforehand about it before the U of A dug it and the folks in the 50’s

Man, hate that happened. Of course, that is exactly the reason I’m so funny about who comes to our land. My partner just sent a pic of the “H” marking we found that I started this thread about to UK arch. Dept. The main guy there requested GPS location of site and apparently has interest in coming out. I am more than reluctant for the example you shared, plus other reasons. Place is pretty special to us and just want to always do right by it. Corny I know but is what it is. We’ve never done any digging, etc up behind that waterfall. Just picked up cool stuff from the bottom rock creek area below. Not to say I won’t just trying to respect it.

 

[civil_war22]

Man, hate that happened. Of course, that is exactly the reason I’m so funny about who comes to our land. My partner just sent a pic of the “H” marking we found that I started this thread about to UK arch. Dept. The main guy there requested GPS location of site and apparently has interest in coming out. I am more than reluctant for the example you shared, plus other reasons. Place is pretty special to us and just want to always do right by it. Corny I know but is what it is. We’ve never done any digging, etc up behind that waterfall. Just picked up cool stuff from the bottom rock creek area below. Not to say I won’t just trying to respect it.

I get it more than most, I’m Native American, some of the bluffs that our family used as far back as the 1300’s possibly earlier before us have been looted, and it’s even on private land. Most places anymore have been found, some haven’t, but like us, some of our people are buried in the bluff shelters. In one of them we have they dug up a full skeleton. We have an older (10 years old) GPR unit, and have been able to see the gravesites, and even areas where they hoarded stuff. I have NEVER shown anyone those before, or brought anyone there other than immediate family. Our hometown named after us in Oklahoma was also looted. It’s sad because when I go to these sites I respect them. I’ve caught tweekers out there digging, and destroying other bluffs we searched in, they had also chiseled out a complete petroglyph that was in the wall. I did archeological tours on the more well known sites, and even would bring out local children to help us dig. The U of A tried giving me crap for it, but not only do I have a degree, but also am Native American, and respect the cultural aspect of it, but also see that if it’s not taken out of the ground by me, or my family, a tweeker will take it for a fix, and doesn’t care about the historical context, or whether it’s a ritualistic item or anything else. I had a tweeker I caught out there who had a clay pipe with small effigies on it, there were fox, squirrels, and snakes. We also found a bone brush in their stash. I took it from them, it was on private property, they weren’t supposed to be there, and had destroyed it before that’s why we’d caught them this time.

 

[uniface]

re. Transatlantic contacts :

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/n...facts/157878-another-out-place-artifact.html?

 

[civil_war22]

re. Transatlantic contacts :

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/n...facts/157878-another-out-place-artifact.html?

Believe it or not, but I find this highly true. I’ve found some rather interesting-believable finds in some of the bluff shelters I look over, and some of the other ones out the way that some of the tweekers got in to. I’ve found a Morgan Dollar in one, a .2 cent piece, and even modern coins. Well around the 30’s-50’s. I tend to believe that most folks, even people from Norse time could have, and possibly traveled here, and used bluff shelters just as Indians did. I don’t doubt it at all, because anyone wanting out of the elements would use them. I HAVE, so I know they would. One time on an overnight coon hunt we used a bluff shelter to stay out of the elements, and to keep the dogs under it too when we were done, and it started raining. With every wall, but the main entrance it was actually exceptionally warm.

 

[Always_Seek_The_Treasure]

Those stones look staked by hand

 

[Charl]

re. Transatlantic contacts :

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/n...facts/157878-another-out-place-artifact.html?

You'll love this:

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[Always_Seek_The_Treasure]

Those stones look staked by hand View attachment 1809621

Stacked not staked [emoji23]

 

[kentucky Quinn]

Stacked not staked [emoji23]

Correct, Those are man stacked. We made a wind block first day I went back up there after finding the place. Stacked previous fire area with some of the larger stuff that was laying right by

 

[Always_Seek_The_Treasure]

Correct, Those are man stacked. We made a wind block first day I went back up there after finding the place. Stacked previous fire area with some of the larger stuff that was laying right by

Dang! I thought maybe it was someone from the ancient past!

 

[uniface]

You're right Charl. I love it.

The retired archaeologist admitting the "immediate and violent opposition" publishing the Norse coin would have provoked tells you everything you need to know to get a handle on how objective the "science" of archaeology is in North America. And on its credibility to anyone with information from sources it does not control.

 

[uniface]

Since the Bat Creek Inscription was mentioned, here's a thoughtful and intelligent account of it :

https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/mcculloch.2/arch/batcrk.html

Genuine Science examines the unexplained.
Fraudulent "science" (pretends it) explains the unexamined.

In a nutshell.