Im reading a book called New York and am wondering about coins

[CoilyGirl]

A ducatoon or ducat ( Dutch),a rijksdaalder or rix dollar as the English called it or eight Spanish reale if you were sailing South.Also noteworthy were lion dollars.I'm interested solely because this book is fascinating and because some of you do live where the Americas were first colonized.

 

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[grasshopper]

Maybe I'm confused.... But what are you asking?

 

[Beans]

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[CoilyGirl]

I'm asking if anyone has found any of these coins. I know some have found reales.Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Only in my dreams.. so far!

 

[bill from lachine]

If memory serves me correctly the lion coin you're talking about would be French also known as the lion d'or and would
be a gold coin....don't recall seeing any posted.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[bill from lachine]

Double post.....oops.

 

[CoilyGirl]

Thanks Bill.

 

[l.cutler]

There was a silver Dutch " Lion Dollar", so called because of the lion on the reverse. Properly called a Leeuwen-Daalder they were sort of a Trade dollar the Dutch made in the 17th century.

 

[Gunrunner61]

CoilyGirl, Of the ones stated the only one I have ever found
is an 8 Reale It has had about 1/4 of it cut away from the
top. I found it in Oconee County S.C. About as far to the
North West as you can get in that state.

P.S.
It turned out to be a 18th century counterfit.

 

[steelheadwill]

It sounds like you are asking about circulating coinage in Colonial NY .
Below is a paragraph that will give you an idea of what was around in 1711.
Thanks to UND for what I consider the best online info regarding Colonial Coinage:
Colonial Coins - Section Contents

"An estimate of the quantities of coinage circulating in the New York colony can be gleaned from the remains of the English 32 gun frigate H.M.S. Feversham. While in New York City it was recorded on September 4, 1711, that the Feversham was given £569 12s5d from the British treasury office in New York. it represented the coins then in circulation in New York City. On September 17, 1711 the Feversham set sail for Quebec. On Sunday October 7, 1711, during their journey north, the Feversham sank on the rocks off the shore of Scatari Island near the coast of Nova Scotia. In 1984 the Feversham was found by a private group that conducted salvage operations over the next few years. Among the items found on board were £33 13s in coins, presumably a portion of the allocation that had been obtained in New York City. This hoard contained 8 English silver coins, 22 Dutch coins (Lion dollars), 5 coins from Spain, 504 New World Spanish coins (from one half to 8 reales coins) and 126 pieces of Massachusetts silver. the Massachusetts silver consisted of: one NE shilling, being a Noe 3-C; four Willow Tree shillings, consisting of a Noe 1-A, 3-D, 3-E and one example too worn to classify; thirty five Oak Tree shillings; one Oak Tree sixpence; seventy five Pine Tree Shillings and one Pine Tree sixpence as well as nine cut pieces that had probably been used as small change, consisting of four half shilling pieces and five quarter shilling pieces. From the Feversham find it appears that proportionally, Massachusetts silver was second only to Spanish American coinage in New York."

 

[CoilyGirl]

It sounds like you are asking about circulating coinage in Colonial NY .
Below is a paragraph that will give you an idea of what was around in 1711.
Thanks to UND for what I consider the best online info regarding Colonial Coinage:
Colonial Coins - Section Contents

"An estimate of the quantities of coinage circulating in the New York colony can be gleaned from the remains of the English 32 gun frigate H.M.S. Feversham. While in New York City it was recorded on September 4, 1711, that the Feversham was given £569 12s5d from the British treasury office in New York. it represented the coins then in circulation in New York City. On September 17, 1711 the Feversham set sail for Quebec. On Sunday October 7, 1711, during their journey north, the Feversham sank on the rocks off the shore of Scatari Island near the coast of Nova Scotia. In 1984 the Feversham was found by a private group that conducted salvage operations over the next few years. Among the items found on board were £33 13s in coins, presumably a portion of the allocation that had been obtained in New York City. This hoard contained 8 English silver coins, 22 Dutch coins (Lion dollars), 5 coins from Spain, 504 New World Spanish coins (from one half to 8 reales coins) and 126 pieces of Massachusetts silver. the Massachusetts silver consisted of: one NE shilling, being a Noe 3-C; four Willow Tree shillings, consisting of a Noe 1-A, 3-D, 3-E and one example too worn to classify; thirty five Oak Tree shillings; one Oak Tree sixpence; seventy five Pine Tree Shillings and one Pine Tree sixpence as well as nine cut pieces that had probably been used as small change, consisting of four half shilling pieces and five quarter shilling pieces. From the Feversham find it appears that proportionally, Massachusetts silver was second only to Spanish American coinage in New York."

Great source steelhead will ,thank you for sharing and I will bookmark that site.When we were in Massachusetts this Fall we came upon a man metal detecting a park and he had just found a pine schilling which we had never heard of.

 

[steelheadwill]

you are very welcome Coily !
in the almost 3 three years I've been swinging I've gone from not knowing much about old items to being able to field ID most of the stuff I dig, much of this knowledge has come from my friends here at T-Net
Did you get to see the shilling? this would be something not commonly found in park settings and there are a lot of reproductions out there, I DO hope the find was a real one (and that the next one you see is one that you dig)

It's great to see your enthusiasm and quest for knowledge, and may all your hunts be happy! Herbie.

 

[steelheadwill]

The Dutch minted silver lion coins, I haven't haven't gotten the dollar yet,
but do have a silver two Stuiver (Dime size) example from late 18th C,
I think it was a 1776 nice rampant lion

If memory serves me correctly the lion coin you're talking about would be French also known as the lion d'or and would
be a gold coin....don't recall seeing any posted.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[MUDDIGGER]

Steelhead you digs nice stuff

 

[CoilyGirl]

you are very welcome Coily !
in the almost 3 three years I've been swinging I've gone from not knowing much about old items to being able to field ID most of the stuff I dig, much of this knowledge has come from my friends here at T-Net
Did you get to see the shilling? this would be something not commonly found in park settings and there are a lot of reproductions out there, I DO hope the find was a real one (and that the next one you see is one that you dig)

It's great to see your enthusiasm and quest for knowledge, and may all your hunts be happy! Herbie.

Yes we did get to see the shilling and were just dumbfounded because in Tennessee you rarely find any currency that old. I wanted to jump out of the car and help the guy,lol!