im not sure ? i need your help on this one

[Mike in Berks]

i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

this was dug up at a 1850's house in the back yard where the garden was located
it's 1 1/4" wide and 1 1/4" high it does not stick to a magnet an it's heavy for it's size
the pins are 3/8th" apart and they are 3/8th" long and their almost 1 1/2 mm wide
i'm thinking it was a horse(maybe female) decoration on a leather strap ? ? other than
that i'm stumped i have dug a few stick pins and i measured one pin 1/4"long and
1mm wide anyone ever dig one of these ? anyone know what they were used for ?



i added a stick pin for comparison


thanks for looking HH

 

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[Mike in Berks]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

The picture of it by a dime doesn't make it seem to darn large to me! Everyone is commenting on it being so big? What am I missing? Monty

Monty thats Mr. Kennedy not Mr. Roosevelt lol

 

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[Mike in Berks]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Alpine hat or lederhosen pin. I've seen some that measure 2" across.

sorry i messed up replying to your post grndfisher i did'nt push the post button twice
i wrote wow thanks for the photo grndfisher you have me convinced it's a pin
plus you gave me 2 topics to research today you seem to have some knowledge
on these pins beings that it's made of lead could you possibly give me a timeframe of when
this was worn or are they making the same pins out of lead yet thanks for your help...... HH

 

[silverswede]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

How about a large Tie Tack?

 

[Jagdpanther]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Alpine hat or lederhosen pin. I've seen some that measure 2" across.

sorry i messed up replying to your post grndfisher i did'nt push the post button twice
i wrote wow thanks for the photo grndfisher you have me convinced it's a pin
plus you gave me 2 topics to research today you seem to have some knowledge
on these pins beings that it's made of lead could you possibly give me a timeframe of when
this was worn or are they making the same pins out of lead yet thanks for your help...... HH

No real knowledge. I've lived in Germany for about eight years total and have seen a good number of pins that look like yours. My guess is that it represents an Alpine house in the summer. It might have also been on the strap to Swiss (Alpine) Cow Bell. Sorry I can't help more but just my best guess.

 

[Mike in Berks]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Alpine hat or lederhosen pin. I've seen some that measure 2" across.

sorry i messed up replying to your post grndfisher i did'nt push the post button twice
i wrote wow thanks for the photo grndfisher you have me convinced it's a pin
plus you gave me 2 topics to research today you seem to have some knowledge
on these pins beings that it's made of lead could you possibly give me a timeframe of when
this was worn or are they making the same pins out of lead yet thanks for your help...... HH

No real knowledge. I've lived in Germany for about eight years total and have seen a good number of pins that look like yours. My guess is that it represents an Alpine house in the summer. It might have also been on the strap to Swiss (Alpine) Cow Bell. Sorry I can't help more but just my best guess.

you helped me a lot with the photo of the pin you posted grndfisher
i did a little searching on Alpine Hat Pins - i did'nt find anything similar to the one you posted
or mine and i now know lederhosen is the clothing they wore another lesson learned
and thanks for the photo of the house too ................ HH

 

[PALEOMAN]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

wish i could find dimes that big!

 

[ivan salis]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

maybe pewter which is very similar to lead in most respects -- it was often used to make cheap jewelry and such . to me it appears to be a large type pin maybe worn on a old large type sun hat used by women who like to putter in their garden --jah jah ompah pa pa

 

[RickyP]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Whatever it is, its an interesting find.

 

[Mike in Berks]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Maybe a garden marker - definitely not something to put on a harness, that I can think of (stab the animal).

There are much smaller clutches for pins - like the ones that you put on earrings.

Of course, there are building decorations - where you just tap ceramic decorations right into a wall.

Neat item.

thanks for the reply mrs. oroblanco i'm glad you like the little house with flowers
you corrected me on pins and earings i called them attachments you gave me the correct
term " clutches " thanks much

 

[Mike in Berks]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

maybe pewter which is very similar to lead in most respects -- it was often used to make cheap jewelry and such . to me it appears to be a large type pin maybe worn on a old large type sun hat used by women who like to putter in their garden --jah jah ompah pa pa

ivan do believe you are correct in saying pewter at first i thought lead by it's weight then i scraped it
with my nail on the back and someone suggested it's the color of lead but it's not soft like lead i'm sure
if i tried to bend it it would snap sure has some weight to it
and as you say and the others a large type(pewter) pin on a large type hat used by women who putter in
the garden makes sense to me beings where it was found thanks for your help

 

[Mike in Berks]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Whatever it is, its an interesting find.

i'm glad you think so RickyP it's not old, an it's not gold, but it's like anything i haven't dug up before
"interesting" and thats why i posted it ............... HH

 

[detector de metales]

Re: i'm not sure ? i need your help on this one

Still sticking to the "outside use" garden Marker theory. for something to be placed as a hatpin they would have made it out of a different metal, if it was a cheaper item tin maybe not lead or peweter as some have surmised. This is way to heavy to be used in that fashion.

JMHO
J2