If only if you can find these anymore

[lostlake88]

These calibur relics were all pulled by farmers when they first started moldboarding 150 years ago. They didn't bother with the little cute ones, so you may ask yourself why this is? It's rhetorical, but the answer is they believed the big beautiful relics were once own by great Indian chiefs. This is not subjective thought, I have a couple primary resources that can give this credence. They gladly hopped of that mule driven chariot and picked them up and put them in the ole tin can. Those tin can relics could have bought their farms with todays values. A century has gone by since this relic was discovered and you just have to wonder how many more are out there, unfortunately very few. Happy Hunting and merry Christmas.

 

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[lostlake88]

I know my title to this thread is an extreme example of bad english and I appologize, but I am one that is trying to master the art of typing without looking. I am getting there so bare with me.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Is that point yours?

That is a very fine Thebes in unsharpened condition. Something you don't see very often. Very nice!!

 

[Noodle]

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing. -Noodle

 

[Flintfinder of Mo.]

Dang I thought it was a Lost Lake when I first layed eyes on it. Is it a thebes? Its killer, and I know what you mean. They are still out there, but far and few between. Merry Christmas 2 u 2. thanks for showing that one. John

 

[coalfire]

I was once told this when I started hunting for Points. Back around the turn of the twentieth century (1899-1900 + or - a few years) that a museum either local ones that were notified by the Government or the Smithsonian itself went all around the country (easy if the Smithsonian got with local agricultural community groups) offering a dime a point for LARGE points. I also was told that in the early days farmers used to collect these "stones" from their fields by bucket loads. Also don't forget that almost all museums have 80% of their collections in backroom, repositories and they use them for identifying others among other things. Just my 2 cents,
Respects,
~Z~

 

[The Grim Reaper]

zeawolf, my father tells me stories of when he was a kid in the 40's they would go out and find arrowheads and sell them to a local man whenever they wanted money for a pop or to go to the Saturday Matinee. He would give a nickel for anything under 6 inches long and a quarter for anything over 6 inches. Dad said it wasn't nothing to go out and find 10 to 20 points in the matter of an hour or so and over half of them would be over 6 inches long. This is in the same fields that I hunt today. I told him to just imagine the collection we could have if he had only kept half of what he found, but back then if you collected artifacts you were considered eccentric or an oddball. I've also heard stories that the man who bought the points and other things off of the local kids gave his collection to his kids when he died and they made a small fortune selling them.

 

[StevefromMissouri]

Dorkfish,

My parents did the same thing!! 10 cents a point at the local drugstore counter for an ice cream cone in the late 40's/early 50's. My hunting buddies grandfather said in the 30's when he was a boy, there was 3-4 points on every bar in the creeks around here. He said they made the best "skipping" rocks because they were so flat! ARRRGGHH!!!!

 

[fossis]

Dorkfish,

My parents did the same thing!! 10 cents a point at the local drugstore counter for an ice cream cone in the late 40's/early 50's. My hunting buddies grandfather said in the 30's when he was a boy, there was 3-4 points on every bar in the creeks around here. He said they made the best "skipping" rocks because they were so flat! ARRRGGHH!!!!

I heard of one large collection being 'bought ' for a pair of brogans & a pair of overalls.
My (89) year old mother said they would throw them at trees, , but she did save one cigar box full
for me.

Fossis..............

 

[newnan man]

This is a Ross point, a farmer sold me this in 1974. Paint Creek valley in Ross County, Oh. along Rt. 50. This area is steeped in mounds and ancient sites. We were building a house on a hillside overlooking the vast bottomland. A farmer would come by to watch. We got to talking about plowing and finding points and he ended up selling me this point and 3 fantastic gorgets for 300 bucks. A lot of money then but they are well worth that now. He was pretty old then and his family had lived there forever. He had stories of stuff found along the river valley that he had seen or heard of. I wish I had known more of those farmers better!

 

[pickaway]

Killer artifact Lostlake.
Newnan man is that piece made of knife river flint? Wow worth a heck of alot more now awesome relic congrats...

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Killer artifact Lostlake.
Newnan man is that piece made of knife river flint? Wow worth a heck of alot more now awesome relic congrats...

I'd say that since it is a Ross County Point it is more than likely made from Obsidian. A killer Hopewell piece for sure.

 

[jeff a]

Killer artifact Lostlake.
Newnan man is that piece made of knife river flint? Wow worth a heck of alot more now awesome relic congrats...

looks like knife river to me ,killer artifact for sure,you should write up an article for the aso mag on that one

 

[pickaway]

Yeah it does, also in Converses book the archaeology of ohio they show they were made of obsidian & KR & novaculite, pages 295-298.Killer artifact museum piece

 

[11KBP]

That is one outstanding piece of KRF newnan man.

I would like to see a back-lit picture of it.

11KBP

 

[newnan man]

Yes it is Knife River Flint. I saw in the Ohio State Historical Museum several Ross Blades made of Obsidian, KRF, and pictures of hundreds of large preform blanks of these materials found buried near mounds. Quite a travel feat for the times they were made in. I need to take some pics of the gorgets as they are pretty nice as well. I sold one to a friend (kicking myself) years ago but i'm sure he will send me a pic if I ask him. It was a spud or anchor type. One is a large speckeled granite, the other made of Cannel Coal. If I get a chance I will take a backlit pic. I have them all locked away and never seem to get my points out much.

 

[pickaway]

Man some pics of that would be great.Best piece of flint ive ever seen on this board.

 

[ShowmeMoflint]

Killer,Killer blade love the flaking

 

[ohio]

Nice relic man. I keep hoping. Give me and Jon a shout and we will get out and do something.
Chuck

 

[lostlake88]

Yep this is mine, well not mine since I can't take it with me ya know. That Ross Ceremonial is killer and if I were you I would sell it and buy a Ferrari, at least maybe a big down payment. I have a fabulous book copywrite 1899 that states early cultivaters believed that big arrowheads were "Tecumseh" points. Tecumseh's "body guard" weapons. Pretty ignorant but not unlike about half of the people living in this country today.

The relic I posted is a transitional type, somewhere in between lost lake, deep notch or thebes. It was made in the early archaic which lasted 2,000 years, this is a long time and somewhere whithin a transition had to be made made. The archaic period comprises of almost half of all North American prehistory, 7,000 years.