ID my find, please.

[Out Of Time]

Found a couple of killer artifacts today.

Would love some help ID-ing the point. It's got to be a type, right?

Here's a worked quartz cobble. Most likely a hammer-stone. But a very nice and one that must have been prized.







Here's a nice little obsidian knife. It's unbroken.





Here's the killer point. Not sure of the type or material. It's an exceptional find for me.







Can somebody type this?

 

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[T.C.]

Great day Tom your day maker is a very nice Houx Contracting Stem point / Coastal Contracting Stem Cluster . Type site is in lake county CA LAK 261 AT Clear Lake this is my best guess based on where found .

Which Clear Lake?

 

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[southfork]

Which Clear Lake?

N. California Lake County.

 

[MAMucker]

I really like that quartz wheel. A non-native material always should make one wonder. Quartz is brittle, yet it is a very hard stone and could have been used (speculation) to peck away at something else. But I like the notion of it being a tool, toy, game piece or magic stone? Even in an area (like mine) full of quartz, that piece would grab my eye.

You’ve been pounding the ground all summer, and from what I see, it’s paid off with a G-10 (IMO). Congratulations on the Houx Contracting Stem.

Not to muddy the ID waters here, as I defer to the experts in your area to be best at identifying a local point.

But, just to add possible options on a type to this discussion I humbly submit the following to kick around:

http://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Houx.html


http://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Wahmuza.html




There seems to be a lot of similar styles and types on the west coast with various cultural time periods.
http://www.projectilepoints.net/Search/California_Search.html

Here’s an ask. Can you place the two points side by side for a visual comparison and admiration?

 

[rock]

I like the quartz piece I know you havent posted any found in the fields you look on. That being said it was probably brought in from the creek. I believe it probably was a pecking stone like Kieth said but at the same time most of the cortex has been altered and removed. I also think many disc or game pieces started as a nice round flat rock and was probably used as a hammer of sorts and then later moved on to being a game piece that is why there is so many different sizes of game stones. So I would call it a game stone preform one that was on its way to being a game piece. Its a nice find I have found different sizes of game pieces as well as different sizes of hammers. I believe it a very nice artifact and Im glad you recovered it, rock

 

[southfork]

I really like that quartz wheel. A non-native material always should make one wonder. Quartz is brittle, yet it is a very hard stone and could have been used (speculation) to peck away at something else. But I like the notion of it being a tool, toy, game piece or magic stone? Even in an area (like mine) full of quartz, that piece would grab my eye.

You’ve been pounding the ground all summer, and from what I see, it’s paid off with a G-10 (IMO). Congratulations on the Houx Contracting Stem.

Not to muddy the ID waters here, as I defer to the experts in your area to be best at identifying a local point.

But, just to add possible options on a type to this discussion I humbly submit the following to kick around:

Houx Projectile Point
View attachment 1774514

Wahmuza Blade
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There seems to be a lot of similar styles and types on the west coast with various cultural time periods.
California Projectile Points

Here’s an ask. Can you place the two points side by side for a visual comparison and admiration?

Toms finds are on or near the central coast range not saying Great Basin types never made the trip my guess was made on where found . In my area anything is possible right on the trade routes .

 

[Out Of Time]

I really like that quartz wheel. A non-native material always should make one wonder. Quartz is brittle, yet it is a very hard stone and could have been used (speculation) to peck away at something else. But I like the notion of it being a tool, toy, game piece or magic stone? Even in an area (like mine) full of quartz, that piece would grab my eye.

You’ve been pounding the ground all summer, and from what I see, it’s paid off with a G-10 (IMO). Congratulations on the Houx Contracting Stem.

Not to muddy the ID waters here, as I defer to the experts in your area to be best at identifying a local point.

But, just to add possible options on a type to this discussion I humbly submit the following to kick around:

Houx Projectile Point
View attachment 1774514

Wahmuza Blade
View attachment 1774516
View attachment 1774517


There seems to be a lot of similar styles and types on the west coast with various cultural time periods.
California Projectile Points

Here’s an ask. Can you place the two points side by side for a visual comparison and admiration?

Glad to have your thoughts on this.

I spent a lot of time with Overstreet trying to figure out the type of this point - I knew it must be a type as it's so specific and finished.

I found a bunch that approximately fit and so got stuck. I hadn't figured on Houx Contracting Stem as the pictures in Overstreet weren't that matchy, but when I read the specs, they fit exactly.

south fork knows this stuff and when he made the call I knew he was right.

Having said that, I realize not much is cut and dried when it comes to artifacts.


The value of ID-ing this point is massive as it helps put other finds in context, so it's exciting on that front.


Now I wonder if this point is the best example of several I've found.





What do you reckon?

 

[MAMucker]

I think those tiny barbed shoulders are trying to tell us something.

 

[Missouri Breaks]

Starting with what I think might be that red/black local jasper, wow. If it isn’t obsidian it’s pretty rare. Might be a chert, also rare. But it could be obsidian based on the photo. Just can’t fully tell. The work is sharper and more structured than you see with the softer obsidian pieces where they went this way and that throughout the blade, point etc. That might indicate a different material. The obsidian little chunky one is awesome. I have a couple that are similar in general shape but type I’m not sure. Now the quartz, sounds like a cop out I know but it’s possibly a ceremonial item. This would’ve been picked up at a quartz deposit source for a special purpose. Maybe a polisher or an everyday discoid plant grinder. Not your run of the mill basalt acorn crusher is what I mean. Charmstone is another term that covers a lot of territory and is basically still a mystery as far as archeology is concerned. But I think we all know they were used for whatever their spiritual practices were, or in some case heirloom level specialized tools.

 

[southfork]

The reddish Point is a Coastal Contracting Stem Cluster looks like Jasper ? And a nice Quartz Mano / Hammerstone . IMOP the two points next to the red one look like Houx Cluster with the slight side notches . Nice to see an old post back up .