I want to find a missing International Boundary Marker within the USA!

czachary

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Hello all something that has always grabbed my curiosity is a "washed" away boundary marker from the Republic of Texas days.

International Boundary Marker - Historical Sites & Places of Interest - About Logansport - Town of Logansport Louisiana

Important part...
"As a result of erosion, the first granite marker on the Sabine fell into the river long ago, but a second granite marker on the northward path of the surveyors replaced it to mark the North-South Meridian. This is the only known marker to remain, and it is believed to be the only original International Boundary within the contiguous U.S. Today, the border between Texas and Louisiana follows the Sabine River to the 32nd Parallel, where it connects to the boundary established by Hunt and Forsyth. The Texas Historical Foundation purchased this site to provide public access to the early boundary marker."


I think it would be a neat and historical find. I do not think it has even caught any ones real attention either. I think over time it was just accepted that it was missing. A few things that interest me in the hunt is the fact that with old maps and current technology you could probably have a good chance to get close at the start. Play around with some erosion figures and could just stumble upon the marker in the middle of the river. It is a huge marker, nothing metallic about it though. Probably buried in sand, but would not travel far down the river due to the weight. Sunken no doubt, but there are a lot of hard stratigraphic beds in the area. Do not think it would go too deep. Anyway just something that has always interested me! Thought I would share.
 

What a great and interesting twist on treasure hunting. Is the river below the high water mark public domain?
 

That would Be a fun project // I have Preambulated the Town boundries here in NH for many years and found some markers in strange places (like on a guys mantle //) The best is a Cedar fence post set prior to 1840 and called out many times--it is cut with many dates and now in the town History bld.
You say its large ?? How large ?? Perry
 

Suggestion.... go to current govt marker. Assuming that one is in the right place, you eliminate UP RIVER locations. Unless it has a bronze placard or such, most technologies are useless. MAYBE ground penetrating radar will find a large stone just under the surface. Probably expensive, though. If you are not personally planning on keeping it, try to get a historical group to front the project. Neat story! TTC
 

Most of the river in this area is public domain. Bottom lands for a local land mostly.

10' long 9" square. It is large and granite, which should stand out against all local geology on a GPR. Can catch the river way down at times during the year, maybe walking right over it and never even know.
 

Go for it! TTC
 

Sorry but I'm somewhat confused.
1. Guess, but you are hunting the marker (stone) that went into the river long ago?
2. There is a second marker that remains used as witness marker to the first and you know it's location?
If both of these are correct, then some where there are notes giving a bearing and distance to the stone you are looking for. This should be your point of beginning.
I did resurvey of 158 sections here in Missouri following the original surveyors notes. The original survey done 1835-1845. We found about 3% of the origional stones set. One fell in a river and the river was still in the same place, did not find the original witness stone to the section corner that would have been in the river. Some of the stones (section corners) we found were 2 or 3 feet down. Erosion had covered them. Some in the deep woods we still exposed just like when they were set.
It was amazing how accurate they were. Those 2 or 3 feet down were found when digging the hole to set new marker (6" diameter concrete marker 3' long w/brass cap).
If you have witness marker, the other should be easy to find. At least where it once was. Good luck.
 

We have had good luck using a 4' pc of 3/8" rod screwed into a pc of old rake handle--use it to prob in soft stuff up to 2 ft. Perry
 

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