I think it might be a mine!!!

[sizematters]

New to the game, so hallo all.

Was digging in Germany recently and found this,pictures not great but what do you think it is??

Also in the bottom pictures what is the cannon object ,maybe some insignia, found next to the musket ball on the left

Thanks

 

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[Breezie]

This is certainly not my area of expertise, but I wanted to post so I could follow it. WELCOME to the forum! Breezie

 

[bill from lachine]

sizematters,

Welcome aboard.....since you found that first item in Germany....my first guess would be a spindle whorl.....just do a google search and you'll see other examples.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[Jason in Enid]

No, it's not a mine.

 

[GaRebel1861]

Hit it with a hammer! - Just kidding but I don't think it is a mine. Good luck!

 

[Silver Searcher]

Well it's a lead weight , but it might not be a spindle whorl, but could be. I know this sounds confusing but The use of lead weights of this type is uncertain, and they are generally undateable. Some might have served as spindle whorls. They are also difficult to date, spindle, or loom weights were usually decorated on both sides with moulded lines and pellets, and to are also difficult to date as similar examples have been found in contexts that span the period from Roman to late medieval times. The consensus is that most of them date to the later medieval period.

SS

 

[sizematters]

sizematters,

Welcome aboard.....since you found that first item in Germany....my first guess would be a spindle whorl.....just do a google search and you'll see other examples.

Regards + HH

Bill

Well it's a lead weight , but it might not be a spindle whorl, but could be. I know this sounds confusing but The use of lead weights of this type is uncertain, and they are generally undateable. Some might have served as spindle whorls. They are also difficult to date, spindle, or loom weights were usually decorated on both sides with moulded lines and pellets, and to are also difficult to date as similar examples have been found in contexts that span the period from Roman to late medieval times. The consensus is that most of them date to the later medieval period.

SS

Thanks everybody for the welcomes...

Have looked them up on google and think that you might be right... I will bring it home,clean it up and then post a picture

 

[bill from lachine]

First off since it's lead composition....I'd just rinse it off with a bit of tap water and let it air dry....no cleaning needed or recommended on lead.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[bill from lachine]

SS,

So if I read your response correctly and trust me I get easily confused....lol....at best what they were actually used for and when is a bit of an educated guess....

Take care mate!

Regards + HH

Bill

Well it's a lead weight , but it might not be a spindle whorl, but could be. I know this sounds confusing but The use of lead weights of this type is uncertain, and they are generally undateable. Some might have served as spindle whorls. They are also difficult to date, spindle, or loom weights were usually decorated on both sides with moulded lines and pellets, and to are also difficult to date as similar examples have been found in contexts that span the period from Roman to late medieval times. The consensus is that most of them date to the later medieval period.

SS

 

[sizematters]

First off since it's lead composition....I'd just rinse it off with a bit of tap water and let it air dry....no cleaning needed or recommended on lead.

Regards + HH

Bill

Great,thanks for the tip.new to cleaning too

Any idea on the second picture of the cannon?

 

[bill from lachine]

sizematters,

Might be military and artillery related....but just supposition on my part....probably need some better pictures/closeups and maybe one of the wizzards can give you a positive id.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[ohiowhiteguy]

Hit it with a hammer! - Just kidding but I don't think it is a mine. Good luck!

my first thought...lol..

 

[yaxthri]

I think the canon is a toy canon for a toy-soldier regiment. The old flat variety of pewter toy-soldiers called "zinnsoldaten" in German.

Check this out, not an exact match

http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=281045664091

 

[Silver Searcher]

SS,

So if I read your response correctly and trust me I get easily confused....lol....at best what they were actually used for and when is a bit of an educated guess....

Take care mate!

Regards + HH

Bill

Bill nobody actually knows what the weights were used for, spindle whorls were the lead weights used in the making of fibers, such as wool, flax, hemp, cotton into yarn, like I said these were patterned with lines and pellets. Lead Weights had many uses.
On the UKFD site Lead Weights, and Lead Spindle Whorls have two seperate catagories, but there is nothing to say for sure that the one posted could not have been a Spindle Whorl.....still confused, because I am

SS

 

[Gunrunner61]

Well I stay confused so all I'll say on this matter is WELCOME to da'NET!!!!!.............HH

 

[Reed Lukens]

Hi Clean it up & put a tape on it. Could be anything including a weight to keep the horse in place. I have a couple of those but they have a bar across the middle of the hole to fasten the rope too. Clean, weighed, and measured will help lots

 

[bill from lachine]

SS,

I love the British dry wit....I've gone through most of my life being dazed and confused....what the heck why change now....lol.

Regards + HH

Bill

Bill nobody actually knows what the weights were used for, spindle whorls were the lead weights used in the making of fibers, such as wool, flax, hemp, cotton into yarn, like I said these were patterned with lines and pellets. Lead Weights had many uses.
On the UKFD site Lead Weights, and Lead Spindle Whorls have two seperate catagories, but there is nothing to say for sure that the one posted could not have been a Spindle Whorl.....still confused, because I am

SS