I know its lewd...but its probably 150 years old

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I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

First, if this is too risque, despite its age, I'll understand if it must be removed. Assuming you're still here to help i.d. it, and are not offended by 150 year old pornography, here's what I know.

I've only heard of one other of these being found; the other being both halves, the male and female reclining in a clam shell. Mine was found on a the loctation of a Civil War Union recruiting and training site (on the bottom of the Delaware canal), while the other I've seen was found at a southern Civil War encampment also.

The reverse is a clam shell, and is so realistic that when I swung my coil over the soil I thought it was a fresh water clam and kept looking for the detected object. The inside was encrusted with soil also, and it wasn't until I knocked the dirt out that I realized what it was (sort of!)

It seems to be made of pewter or a similar alloy that could withstand years under water (it is not aluminum, and it has all the surface characturistics of a pewter 1830's token I found in the canal also). It was found among numerous Civil War objects, i.e. 1860's indian heads, seated's, and large cents, pewter spoons with initials carved into them, belt parts, buttons, the usual. Beyond possibly being able to date it, and the fact that it seems to be a form of early pornography, I have no idea of its history or purpose, who made it, or anything else other than it possibly was just a funny pocket piece?
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

I see 2 heads :o
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

I'm no ancient art expert, however this art form dates way back :thumbsup:

Don't see why it couldn't be a cool CW relic.
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

I am not an expert either but, you may be correct
IronSpike said:
I'm no ancient art expert, however this art form dates way back :thumbsup:

Don't see why it couldn't be a cool CW relic.
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

LMAO.You people would be a riot in a psychiatrists "Rorsach test".(or however it's spelled lol)

As you look at it..it's a guy lay on his back,hands ontop of head,or behind probably. Legs spread wide reclining,and the big blob in the near middle is his..um..winkie! :o

Glad i could help :tongue3:
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

This takes "waaaaay" too much imagination to worry about it. Do you get
embarrassed looking at cloud shapes as they drift by.. ??? ??? ???
Like someone mentioned about some CW Soldiers sitting around a campfire in the dim light....they'd be saying.."ITS A WHAT? Your crazy...let me look at that."
Then when one of them dropped it, it looked like everything else on the ground.
This is why it was there for you to find. :laughing7:

TiredIron
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

Dano Sverige said:
LMAO.You people would be a riot in a psychiatrists "Rorsach test".(or however it's spelled lol)

As you look at it..it's a guy lay on his back,hands ontop of head,or behind probably. Legs spread wide reclining,and the big blob in the near middle is his..um..winkie! :o

Glad i could help :tongue3:

so am I, it was like a magic eye, all I could see was a bust head right with open mouth.

I see it now, but it was a subtle piece
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

Like most of the others, I couldnt reply because I couldnt see it.

Today I see it and it is just as described by Dano, except that he is sitting. I dont think we need any more descriptions LOL.

It looks like a hinge on the left. MJ IDed it.
 

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Re: I know it's lewd...but it's probably 150 years old

Sure i've seen another set of these on here somewhere.Or maybe another site.Anyhow,when he's rejoined with his female mate,then when the two are closed together i guess his winkie meets her pinkie lol. Like most things though,the good stuff would be hidden away from view..which defeats the object in my opinion!
They had it rough in the old days! :-\
 

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Dano Sverige said:
LMAO.You people would be a riot in a psychiatrists "Rorsach test".(or however it's spelled lol)

As you look at it..it's a guy lay on his back,hands ontop of head,or behind probably. Legs spread wide reclining,and the big blob in the near middle is his..um..winkie! :o

Glad i could help :tongue3:
No Sh@#! lol
 

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Hello. I know this post is old, but hopefully you are still on this site. Believe it or not I also have this piece. Mine is in much better shape and seems to be in Silver (not sure). I have been searching for information about this item for years. I thought it was some type of fertility item because my father (born 1898, Died 1977) always had this in his pocket. He fathered 7 children with my mother his first at the age of 56 and the last at the age of 69. He was born on a plantation in Mississippi. This piece was still in his pocket when he passed. Clamshell Man and Woman.webpClosed Clamshell.webp
 

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Hello. I know this post is old, but hopefully you are still on this site. Believe it or not I also have this piece. Mine is in much better shape and seems to be in Silver (not sure). I have been searching for information about this item for years. I thought it was some type of fertility item because my father (born 1898, Died 1977) always had this in his pocket. He fathered 7 children with my mother his first at the age of 56 and the last at the age of 69. He was born on a plantation in Mississippi. This piece was still in his pocket when he passed. View attachment 1030808View attachment 1030809


Fertility item! That's funny, sounds like it worked though, lol.Here is a painted one on ebay- Antique Metal Nude Scene in A Clam Shell Hidden Erotic Risqué Vintage | eBay
 

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Lady Dee,

Thanks for posting! That is an amazing piece.

I remember this thread from a few years ago and frankly I could never see what was depicted in the original relic. Yours leaves no doubt...

The problem now is... How do we research such an object? What do you call it? Is it pornography, erotica, fertility...? Or has someone else written about it using innuendo? Does it represent a nut, egg, oyster, or none of the above. I search a little and found a few similar type Asian objects (hinged object with man and woman inside having sex), but nothing really like yours or the original post.

I know you said your father carried this in his pocket, but can you be more precise about the size?

Presumably he obtained this as an adult so... 1920's or later?

Is it pewter?

DCMatt
 

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Hello DCMatt,
Thank you for your response. I was so lucky to have found this site. I didn't know anywhere else I could find information about this piece due to the subject matter. The piece measures 1.5" in diameter and the material is grayish silver in color and will not stick to a magnet. The hinge is a piece of small steel. The piece looks like it once had numbers or a date on it, unfortunately, it is so faded I really can't tell what they are. I know my father traveled a good deal. He lived in Oklahoma and Missouri at one time. In his younger days he was a driver for the actor/comedian Eddie Cantor. He was also a highly skilled carpenter and plumber. My mother remembers that he had this when she married him in 1953 and laughingly states that she always thought he cast a love spell on her with this object. Thank you again for your interest.
 

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Thank you for that link. Wow, that is close. Perhaps what I have is a mold and there are others out there. I have searched Ebay countless times and have never seen anything similar. Thanks, again.
 

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Lady Dee, I just returned to the site after a couple years of chemo (sucessful..thanks) and I have the answer to my mysterious object waiting here. Thank you! Very cool, and neat story about your father and mother too!
 

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Lady Dee, I just returned to the site after a couple years of chemo (sucessful..thanks) and I have the answer to my mysterious object waiting here. Thank you! Very cool, and neat story about your father and mother too!
Good to have you back Johnyi :thumbsup:

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Welcome back johnny...glad your doing well.
 

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thanks fellers, good to be back.
 

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