I found a strange structure...treasure inside?

[davidk]

I've done a lot of research, looked at old maps, etc. I live in Cincinnati, a really old city. This structure is in the city but secluded by a patch of woods and this wall is right behind two sets of rail. It was at one time part of a complex train station structure that is built along a hill. The first route to go through Cincinnati and the first train station in Cincinnati I think. I just can't see this thing as just being a wall though. What do you guys think?

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[Jeffro]

Definately worth checking out with a metal detector. Without a story of some sort, it'd be pretty hard to place a treasure there, unless your research has already turned something up. I'd definately try and find old pics at your library of where the buildings used to stand in relationship to this wall, and start searching!

 

[j2fun4u]

looks like a keeper....check it out with the detector

 

[DJ_Quinn]

Treasure? Doubtfull. Old railway artifacts? probably. How are you planning on accessing it? It looks like it's been sealed with a concrete barrier.

 

[bomber]

do it!

 

[Angelo]

Recently, I participated in a railway bridge project in Nampa, Idaho that contained a structure similar to the one in your city and it was used for crossing to the other side by pedestrians.

The one you discovered, seems to be gothic and rather fancy. Is there new rr tracks in the vicinity which prompted the closing of the structure?

The one in Idaho was steel gated as the railroad likes to preserve some structures. The reason for covering is to keep vandalism and vagrants from entering.

Tony

 

[jon43]

i dont know about that one but looks like a grave , were they sealed the body in but i dont know crap

 

[jon43]

sorry, i see now you said it was part of a wall sorry

 

[cryptodave]

Based on what the wall looks like, it appears it might have something to do with Cincy's long forgotten subway project. It was never completed, and very little traffic except homeless, low lifes and druggies. Watch your back when exploring around those areas.

I would go over into the old brewery area of Cincy and try detecting those areas. They used to be big for visiting and had several little parks and what not.

 

[Wetgreenie]

Too cool. It looks like something from the DaVinci code or national Treasure Movies.
.....That would get me going too.

 

[Mackaydon]

Davidk:
Consider taking your pics to the Historical Society of Cincinnati, along with a good map and ask them for informantion. Meanwhile, I would find an aerial of the area and see if that might give you (and the Society) more clues as to what the image commemorates--other than Cincinnati. The answer you get may lead you to more interesting places to hunt.
Let us know,
Don....

 

[Angelo]

Yours is part of the Pennsylvania Little Miami Rail

Here's some photos

Under. Abandoned RR pedestrian crossings.

Google: Pennsylvania/LittleMiami Railroad

It depicted a carved relief. Nevertheless, a filled in area to keep people out of the tunnel

Tony

 

[PBK]

Awesome and then some, Tony!

Hope you won't mind if I post the link in case someone else would like to check it out. Just scroll down to the fifth row of pics at:

http://homepage.mac.com/jjakucyk/Transit1/prr/index.html

 

[Michelle]

This thing looks creepy add it to the graveyard sight......check it out inside first....no bones about it ....do it!

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Good research PBK and Angelo! I see from the website that its bricked up because the structure is full of mud. Cool Pics

 

[davidk]

Treasure? Doubtfull. Old railway artifacts? probably. How are you planning on accessing it? It looks like it's been sealed with a concrete barrier.

I have no idea how I'd access it but I just have a feeling something is behind that wall.

Recently, I participated in a railway bridge project in Nampa, Idaho that contained a structure similar to the one in your city and it was used for crossing to the other side by pedestrians.

The one you discovered, seems to be gothic and rather fancy. Is there new rr tracks in the vicinity which prompted the closing of the structure?

The one in Idaho was steel gated as the railroad likes to preserve some structures. The reason for covering is to keep vandalism and vagrants from entering.

Tony

The route was very old...This was the first route to come through Cincinnati and was constructed in the 1840s or something like that. There are two sets of tracks that run parallel. One set has trees growing out of it so it obviously has not been used in a long time. I'm not sure about the other set of tracks in front of it but I'm guessing that isn't used either. In 1930 they built union terminal, a huge train hub with a rail yard that has probably 30 sets of tracks that run behind the building and I think that's what caused this one to go obsolete.

Based on what the wall looks like, it appears it might have something to do with Cincy's long forgotten subway project. It was never completed, and very little traffic except homeless, low lifes and druggies. Watch your back when exploring around those areas.

I would go over into the old brewery area of Cincy and try detecting those areas. They used to be big for visiting and had several little parks and what not.

Don't get me started on how awesome the subway system is! I infultrated it last year with my friends and it was awesome. I didn't know bums and drug addicts were down there and we didn't see any when we were down there unless they were hiding. We did find old mattresses and beer cans, graffiti and a lot of misc. cool stuff. The mattress tells me that a bum sleeps down there. I think he may have heard us coming and hid somewhere because I went there the day before to scope it out and saw footprints leading to the entrance where we got in. This structure I found is nowhere near the subway though, although it did cross my mind, it can't be part of the subway because it's about 7 miles away from it. I don't know what the brewery district is...I'm guessing you're talking about Over-the-Rhine? That area is not really a safe place to be, especially if you're white and there isn't much that's unpaved. You can't dig in public parks can you?

Yours is part of the Pennsylvania Little Miami Rail

Here's some photos

Under. Abandoned RR pedestrian crossings.

Google: Pennsylvania/LittleMiami Railroad

It depicted a carved relief. Nevertheless, a filled in area to keep people out of the tunnel

Tony

Are you saying that the wall is a tunnel? I don't think it is but that's an interesting idea. I need to get my metal detector and look around there!
Thanks everoyne for the comments...I appreciate your help!

 

[davidk]

Good research PBK and Angelo! I see from the website that its bricked up because the structure is full of mud. Cool Pics

The structure that is full of mud is another structure. I'll try and explain it to give you a visual. You have Easten Ave. There's a building on eastern ave. (the one bricked up with mud). We tried to look into it but couldn't. Because of Cincinnati's goegraphy, like Pittsburgh it can be very urbanized and rural at the same time. We went behind the building that was bricked up which required us to go up the hill. The top of the building is actually all dirt and you don't know where the building ends and where land from the hill begins. We got curious and wanted to see what was behind that. There were two sets of railroad tracks behind us and the structure that I posted the original pics of a few feet a little further back behind the tracks. So basically, the structure I found with the carved relief is linear to the structure that is bricked up--just up hill and further back into a patch of secluded woods.

 

[Mackaydon]

Davidk:
I wonder if that's the same line that used to run behind my grandmother's home in Wyoming, just outside of Cincy. I recall visiting a steam engine roundhouse in the area in the late 40s; and hearing that great sound of the steam locomotives and their steam whistles.
Don..

 

[Illinois Jeff]

It looked to me to be some kind of religious figure. the first glance made me think burial vault! In its day though I bet it was beautiful. There maybe something in it, like a time capsule. Better see who owns it. It may have some historical value or may be listed as a historical site and feds watch that stuff.

 

[Mackaydon]

Davidk:
I'm guessing the image is that of Cincinnatus, for whom the city was named--in an indirect manner (another story). Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus (born about 519 BC), was a Roman general, statesman and farmer. I can envision seeing his left leg from the knee down in the second pic. Just above the knee, I can envision what appears to be a rolled up scroll. He's wearing the typical robe (toga) of the day. All that before my first beer; amazing.
Don....