i dug a buckle need some info on it ??

[Mike in Berks]

i need help on this buckle from the what is it ? experts
dug up at a circa 1850's house on 11-12-08 it's 1 3/16 wide and 1 1/16 long with out the
attached piece the small attached piece has writing on it and it took me till today to figure it
out left side says PAT i can only see the T the top has APRIL and 2 numbers ?? and the
right side i see 27 so i assume it's from 1927 ? it all seems to be thin brass except maybe
the tongue ? it's pitted on the end but i have seen pitted brass before
what i'd like to know is what was this buckle used for ?? i'm hoping maybe a suspender
buckle ?? i'm sure someone on here saw or dug one like this and has the answer for me



and the small attached piece with the letters


thanks for looking

 

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[BuckleBoy]

I have one of those buckles too!  I put it in the suspender clip case, but it came from a site that dated just before to just after the Civil War.

I thought it was a suspender clip.


-Buckles

 

[Mike in Berks]

I have one of those buckles too! I put it in the suspender clip case, but it came from a site that dated just before to just after the Civil War.

I thought it was a suspender clip.


-Buckles

thanks for the reply Buckles i can't imagine how many varietys you have found i have found 2
with 1875 ? pat dates older style thicker brass i'm gonna guess you found yours in a farm field
maybe the farmer dropped it in the 30's - 40's ? does yours have a pat date on the attachment too ? ?
well, as of now mine is a suspender clip too and 1 more variety ................ HH

 

[BuckleBoy]

I have one of those buckles too! I put it in the suspender clip case, but it came from a site that dated just before to just after the Civil War.

I thought it was a suspender clip.


-Buckles

thanks for the reply Buckles i can't imagine how many varietys you have found i have found 2
with 1875 ? pat dates older style thicker brass i'm gonna guess you found yours in a farm field
maybe the farmer dropped it in the 30's - 40's ? does yours have a pat date on the attachment too ? ?
well, as of now mine is a suspender clip too and 1 more variety ................ HH

Mine doesn't not have a patent date. But I'm not entirely certain it's a suspender clip either. I'm looking for the patent on yours right now. You sure that the date on it is "27"?

 

[Mike in Berks]

I have one of those buckles too! I put it in the suspender clip case, but it came from a site that dated just before to just after the Civil War.

I thought it was a suspender clip.


-Buckles

thanks for the reply Buckles i can't imagine how many varietys you have found i have found 2
with 1875 ? pat dates older style thicker brass i'm gonna guess you found yours in a farm field
maybe the farmer dropped it in the 30's - 40's ? does yours have a pat date on the attachment too ? ?
well, as of now mine is a suspender clip too and 1 more variety ................ HH

Mine doesn't not have a patent date. But I'm not entirely certain it's a suspender clip either. I'm looking for the patent on yours right now. You sure that the date on it is "27"?

yes, i guess you can't see the 27 in the photo i see APRIL ?? 27 i kinda messed up on this one i soaked
it in water and used a skewer to get the crud off after the second soak i saw letters and i used your method
for backmarks but, the water took the dirt out of the letters 27 is clear though and there is some corrosion
there it came out of the ground at 7 - 8 inches i really appreciate you helping me out i'm wondering if
the date is for the attached piece only ? well, it's snowing good here and i have an appt. so i'm gonna log
off here for a few hours i hope you find it Buckles then we'll both know what these things were used for

 

[Mike in Berks]

hi all i did a hot peroxide bath buckle cleaned up nice and now that i looked at it again
i see T APRIL ?0 27 sooo, its either 10, 20, or 30 i don't have a problem looking up
patent numbers but i tried patent dates and it don't work for me
here is the same photo hope it helps


good luck out there everyone it's been snowing here for the last 2 1/2 hrs - heavy

 

[Mike in Berks]

maaaan, every time i post i see something more afterwards i decided to use a camel
brush where the letters and dates are and after doing that i saw 4 numbers now
the 2 looks more like an 8 and there was a 1 in front of that 187? i either see a 5 or
a 6 at the end these numbers are as big as a pencil tip so i'm guessing "it is as old as the
area you were searching" BuckleBoy it's either April 20,30 1875 or 1876 i've been
trying the patent seach site for the last hour and i just can't get the hang of it
somebody has to know what these were used for and the age yes

 

[kuger]

Those were suspender buckles.I have found several of the exact ones(I have to look at them closer as I I didnt see any dates on them)I posted them on here and an expert identified them.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well Hell. I can't find the danged patent for it.




But I feel pretty confident that that's what it is.

 

[Mike in Berks]

Those were suspender buckles.I have found several of the exact ones(I have to look at them closer as I I didnt see any dates on them)I posted them on here and an expert identified them.

BIG thanks for the reply kuger
how long ago did you post yours ? that would be cool if you could post a link to it...........HH

 

[Mike in Berks]

Well Hell. I can't find the danged patent for it.




But I feel pretty confident that that's what it is.

you don't find it if you don't have the right date sorry about that BB thanks for offering
to help me out though i'm confident too now that kuger says he posted one and got
an ID on it i hope someone can put up a link to his post........... HH

 

[Montana Jim]

Might be a "spur" strap buckle...

 

[Mike in Berks]

Might be a "spur" strap buckle...

hello Montana Jim i've never heard that term before so i looked at 7 sites on the web titled
19th century spur strap buckle and none that i saw looked similar to this one i'm gonna see if
i can find kugers post HH

 

[BuckleBoy]

Might be a "spur" strap buckle...

  hello Montana Jim    i've never heard that term before    so i looked at 7 sites on the web titled
19th century spur strap buckle    and none that i saw looked similar to this one    i'm gonna see if
i can find kugers post       HH

I looked through the first hundred of his posts then put the project on hold.  If he would post a link, it would be much appreciated.  I can't find a post of his that contains the word "suspender" with the search feature... 

 

[Mike in Berks]

Might be a "spur" strap buckle...

hello Montana Jim i've never heard that term before so i looked at 7 sites on the web titled
19th century spur strap buckle and none that i saw looked similar to this one i'm gonna see if
i can find kugers post HH

I looked through the first hundred of his posts then put the project on hold. If he would post a link, it would be much appreciated. I can't find a post of his that contains the word "suspender" with the search feature...

thanks for the help and time you're putting in this BuckelBoy i do appreciate it
i started at page 2 and i got to page 20 i saw 2 or 3 posts by him an i see it goes to page 41
i'll keep going to 41 by tonight or tomorrow for all i know there could be a hundred pages lol
good luck out there !!

 

[kuger]

Sorry guys!I posted that years ago....might not have been on this site even.I know the fellow that Ided it,he doesnt post anymore,I will ask him what he knows.I will also try to get a picture up of mine.Montana......these are way to light to have anything to do with spurs.

 

[Montana Jim]

Sorry guys!I posted that years ago....might not have been on this site even.I know the fellow that Ided it,he doesnt post anymore,I will ask him what he knows.I will also try to get a picture up of mine.Montana......these are way to light to have anything to do with spurs.

Just guessing... I hope you figure it out.

This is what I was thinking they were but I see now I remembered it wrong.

 

[Mike in Berks]

Sorry guys!I posted that years ago....might not have been on this site even.I know the fellow that Ided it,he doesnt post anymore,I will ask him what he knows.I will also try to get a picture up of mine.Montana......these are way to light to have anything to do with spurs.

i hope the guy can still help you out with an iD kuger i sure would like to see a photo of one
of yours too do any of yours have a patent date ? thanks for the reply ........HH

 

[White Feather]

Shoe Buckle?

 

[Mike in Berks]

Sorry guys!I posted that years ago....might not have been on this site even.I know the fellow that Ided it,he doesnt post anymore,I will ask him what he knows.I will also try to get a picture up of mine.Montana......these are way to light to have anything to do with spurs.

Just guessing... I hope you figure it out.

This is what I was thinking they were but I see now I remembered it wrong.

wow beautiful set of spurs Montana Jim i can see why you said spurs now everything matches except the
part that goes around the ring and they do look thicker than mine more heavy duty
thanks for the help and the photo ............. HH