HUGE pile of colonial relics from multiple sites w/ many unique items +17 coins

Bill D. (VA)

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I know I’m guilty of not having posted any finds for quite some time, but I’ve been incredibly busy with digging at several productive sites, cleaning and ID’ing finds, training for a marathon relay, working in the yard, finishing up the first phase of a major project I’ve been working on for months, etc, and just haven’t had a spare moment to put together anything on my recent recoveries. So I’m now finally making the time, and I apologize for the length of this catch-up post, but it’s necessary to give these items the attention they deserve.

I’m not going to get into the specific details of any of these sites except to say one was local, and the others were outside of my normal territory. And they saw occupancy anywhere from the 1600s to the turn-of-the-century. But I only spent time hunting those spots that were producing something colonial, and walked away from several early 1900s sites that weren’t of interest to me. Multiple hotspots were located at each site, and the quantity and quality of the recoveries was surprisingly good. Buttons, as usual, were the big winner with well over 100 found followed by a big pile of musketballs of all sizes. But an astounding total of 17 coins were dug at these sites including 8 colonial silvers. And this finally allowed me to break the jinx on cut coins that has plagued me since I went to that “CUT SLVR” license plate last fall:hello2:. Some great individual finds were also recovered, and these will be highlighted below. But first, here’s a couple group shots of the overall finds made at these sites over the last month or so. The first pic was uploaded as a huge file so you can zoom in multiple times to get a good, up-close look at the items.

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Next are the coins. The silvers are all small and many are not in good condition, but after a very slow season they are quite welcomed and appreciated. They included 4 cut pieces, 1 cob, and 3 half reales (2 are slicks). And the 9 coppers consisted of 1 KG2, 2 Va halfpennies, 1 draped bust LC (1798), 1 classic head LC (1810), 2 matron head LCs, a counterstamped LC (with the Roman numeral “XII”), and one slick.

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Probably my favorite find overall was a Royal Edinburgh Volunteers 80[SUP]th[/SUP] Regiment of Foot button. This unit saw action during the siege at Yorktown during the final days of the Revolutionary War, and this one piece officer’s button displays an incised “80” which still retains much of its original gilt.

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Another awesome find was this 17[SUP]th[/SUP] century seal matrix displaying a coat of arms that was identified by my UK friend Kev as belonging to the Fleetwood family who first came to Jamestown in 1609.

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A long-time friend of mine also helped with another ID, and passed along this artifact to an expert who identified it as Jesuit fur trade type cross, although those are usually found well NW of Virginia. But this one could possibly date as far back as 1570 when the Jesuits were documented as having traveled up the James River, and made a couple stops, including in the vicinity of where the cross was found (not far from Jamestown), while attempting to establish a Spanish mission in the New World. That’s the only way I can figure it could have been lost here.

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One of the very first finds I made at one of the sites was a Bristol merchant’s trade token dated 1670 minted in brass, and these are extremely difficult to find on this side of the pond. On the obverse are the large letters “CB” for ”CIVITAS BRISTOL” and “A BRISTOL FARTHING.” And on the reverse “THE ARMES OF BRISTOL (Coat of Arms) with a sailing ship going left issuing from a castle. Very cool find although it did not clean up that well.

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Never found one of these before either. It’s an oval cuff button depicting an image of George III with the inscription “The King” across the top.

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I also have never recovered a colonial book clasp, and this one could date as far back as the 1600s and may have been used on a family Bible.

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This is a cool early buckle with maker’s mark “IA” on the chape, but so far I’ve been unable to determine the bucklemaker. It was probably a stud chape style buckle with the stud broken off, and probably dates from 1690 to 1720.

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I always love recovering these mid-1600s fig-shaped spoon bowls with maker’s mark, and this one displays a lovely green patina along with a good portion of the stem. It came from a 14" depth.

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This find isn’t all that unique as I’ve found several previously, but a late 18[SUP]th[/SUP] century bullion weight is always a nice recovery.

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I’ve really become interested in early lead tokens, and many just had random lines etched on both sides. But one I recovered has the image of a Spanish cross on one side and resembles an early cob.

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Another couple of 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century military buttons found at separate sites include this early navy and CW era Virginia coat with a Scovill Waterbury backmark.

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Lastly, here are a couple of decorative, gilted buttons that cleaned up quite nicely.

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And here are a few other random pics from the field …..

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With the weeds quickly taking over, and planting not far off, this may be the end of my season. But it was quite a way to conclude what was otherwise a rather slow last few months. Now back to my big project ….

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Ouch! My jaw hurts from hitting the floor so hard! Quality finds in every category, and old! The cut half (top middle in your hand) is is remarkable shape. Is it a cut 2R?

Congrats on a memorable month of hunting!

Thanks man. That silver you mentioned is half of a 1 reale. The denomination and joint assayers marks are on the other side, and based that info the coin dates somewhere between 1737 and 1750..
 

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I am ready to move Eastward after this post. In southern Michigan we have to work really really hard to hit coins in the early 1800s. My brother lives just North of Lynchburg, VA and I keep trying to get him to walk the woods and find me some cellar holes. He doesn't care too much for the tick population though so I will have to take a long vacation down there one of these years. Thanks for the great post with spectacular coins and relics.
 

Very nice recoveries Bill, I have been pretty limited on getting out. I'll be lucky to get out 1 or 2 more times before my fields are planted. I may use this post as motivation for this weekend haha. Take care bud,
 

All I can add to this post is......JUST AMAZING.
 

Congratz on a ton of incredible finds! I love the coins and you found quite a bit of cut silver!
 

You out did yourself Bill. Killer finds from multiple eras. I really like that British Rev war button and that cuff link. Can't wait to see all of it in person this fall. Thanks for taking me along from afar on your expeditions, actually felt like I was there at times. A really well done post.
 

Great news on the ending of the cut silver jinx :laughing7: I'd say you pretty much clobbered it too! I zoomed and scrolled all over that first picture.... dont even know where to start man. Just a killer group from your last hunts. Those cut pistareens have a lot of detail too. I really like that seal matrix of the Fleetwood crest and "The King" cufflink. Too many awesome finds to take in... so I'll just revisit this post a few times in the next days so I can absorb it all. Excellent post and finds Bill.

Thanks Brad. It was a good feeling to finally get myself onto a few nice relics and coins after an otherwise uneventful season. I'm likely done now until the fall, but at least you have your little sifting honey hole to occupy your time thisl summer. Hope that hotspot continues to produce for you. Talk to you soon.
 

KaBoom! Bill D lays it on us.

Great finds Bill as always. That seal matrix is phenomenal and by far my favorite find. Did you try making an impression with it? When we talked the other week you mentioned Spanish silver but you didn't say COB. Wow! I also like that early small buckle. Great finds again and congrats buddy

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Thanks Steve. Yeah, I really like that seal matrix too, especially with the early history behind it. I haven't tried using it yet, but I may go do that now. And I know you like cobs too, but the one I dug was less than impressive as it was clipped down to practically nothing. Still counts as silver though, right??
 

Your coin to tack ratio is exceptional, haha. Both the Jesuit cross and Fleetwood seal matrix are my favorites...for now. Like Brad, I'll be revisiting this Hume book..I mean tnet post and I may revise my favorite finds. Awesome finds CUT SLVR man!

I did think it was quite odd that the tacks just didn't seem to be showing up like they always do. As you know, they're usually found in double digit numbers at just about any colonial site, but only 5 total for all this digging :dontknow:?? More colonial silver than tacks .... that's crazy!
 

Wow Bill, your season really took off since your last post! There is so much to love there I don't know where to start, so I'll leave it at that (LOL).

Thanks Steve. I've been so preoccupied with a big project that it took priority over my digging, but it was something relic-related so I was OK staying away from the fields. There were a lot of negatives this season anyway regarding sites, crops, hunters, etc, so it didn't really matter. Getting harder to find good sites too as you know.
 

Nice to get a name to the Seal - I think I know the Kev you mean.

I agree the book clasp is 17th C, & a better than average type.

The 17th C Token is very rare your side of the pond - congrats on a great bunch - too much to mention.

Thanks Cru. Yep, that was the same Kev you hooked me up with a couple years ago for some bottle seal and British heraldry expertise. He's a good guy and it was great to communicate with him again.
 

You out did yourself Bill. Killer finds from multiple eras. I really like that British Rev war button and that cuff link. Can't wait to see all of it in person this fall. Thanks for taking me along from afar on your expeditions, actually felt like I was there at times. A really well done post.

Thanks Evan. You're quite familiar with one of these sites since you made some nice finds there about this time last year. Matter of fact, that whole trip turned out to be quite productive for you. And I'm sure there will be more opportunities down the road ....
 

Wow, You got several finds that deserve their own post but you just gave it all to us in one INCREDIBLE SHOW. Very nice.
 

you have been killing it Bill. Man what allot of nice stuff. Those coins and buttons are sooo sweet. wtg
 

Not even sure where to start Bill. That button and some of the silvers are incredible. But that seal matrix is really something special. I'm a sucker for the buckles and the fig shaped spoon is a great relic. Wow that's an impressive pile of great finds. Did I say WOW? Wow!!!!
 

Not even sure where to start Bill. That button and some of the silvers are incredible. But that seal matrix is really something special. I'm a sucker for the buckles and the fig shaped spoon is a great relic. Wow that's an impressive pile of great finds. Did I say WOW? Wow!!!!

I thought you'd like that spoon :laughing7:. But its pale in comparison to the 2 whole ones you dug a while back. I wish you'd hurry up and get back to that site. The suspense is killing me ....
 

Staggeringly awesome post. Seal matrix and trade token are my favorites at first pass through.

And to think you've been sitting on all that stuff all this time...Lordy, the restraint.

Thanks for the museum tour!
 

Incredible collection of relics Bill and I'm certain a ton of hours swinging to get there. As soon as I saw the first picture I zeroed in on the 80th Regimental- stunning dig. Throw the coppers, colonial silver, and seal matrix in and there is certainly something that would make anyone's year among the recoveries. Congrats on breaking the cut silver slump
 

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