How to mark an object

[aarthrj3811]

We seem to be getting a lot of posts about people who use dowsing rods to locate areas where coins can be found then they use a metal detector to find them. Some claim that the rods did not locate them but the metal detector found them up to 4 feet away.

A simple way to do this is to use the rods until you mark a spot. Then mark off a four foot square with this spot in the middle. Use the metal detector to find and dig what is in the area. Then use the rods and see if any thing remains in the square. I do not use this method and will tell you how I mark the spot.

For those that are having trouble marking the spot with the rods. Put a coin on the floor. Take your rods or rod and put you heel on the coin. Now move your hands back and forward and see what the rods do. If the rods or rod crosses at some point you need to remember what position you arms were in so you can repeat it. If they do not cross move back from the coin about 3 feet. It is best if you move in a North-South or East-West direction. Now walk forward and see if the rods cross before or after you pass the coin. If they cross before or after the coin your rods or rod is to long or to short.

Once you have found how the rods react you can then stand on the coin again. I find that when I use my heels the signal enters the body better. You then turn 90 degrees and adjust your feet so the rods stay closed. Now turn 90 degrees 3 more times making your adjustments. That is exactly where the object is located.

Now you can walk slowly away from the coin in any direction. The rods will open. As you walk the rods will begin to close. When they close to make a vee stop. The distance between you heel and the coin is the depth. The first 1 foot is sort of a no mans land. The object can be on the surface or 1 foot deep. After 1 foot this method is pretty accurate.

This should help but is not the only method but it is the way I do it….Art

 

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[aarthrj3811]

This morning I receive a solar wind notice from Rice University. I checked the NOOA storm site and then when Dowsing. I have found that my rods react much strong during these events. I get more range and stronger movements of the rods. I checked a few spots that I have passed up before because of the terrain and found a spot of interest to me. This is the longest time the storms have been in the red this year….Art

 

[Ascholten]

I don't care what kind of metal detector you have, it is NOT going to find a coin 4 feet deep unless you did some seriously major mods to it.

If you are talking about just getting 'close' ie in a 4 foot radius then yes the rods did find the coins when you think about it. covering 4 ft by 4 ft can be done in about a minute or two at most.

Aaron

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey Aaron….Your right ….If the target is more than a foot deep Dowsing Rods are the tool to use. They are a lot faster and accurate than the most of the conventional tools that are on the market today. They can search a square mile area in less than 30 minutes…..Art

 

[teleprospector]

Or you may ask the rods to reveal to you only a coin/ring that is within the range of your metal detector/coil combination.

What's worked for me has been to ask this question:

Will the rods please show me our yes answer when I'm standing over a coin within the detection range of my Tesoro metal detector with the 8" coil?
Then start walking your grid with the words "metal detectable coin" in your minds eye while keeping your eyes on the tips of the rods.

You may choose to be more specific about the material type of the coin you seek by substituting "coin" for "silver coin", "nickel coin", "gold ring" ect.
Give it a try and see what works for you here!
Jon

 

[Ascholten]

prospector, that might work for you but you are severely limiting yourself to whatever is within the limits if your MD machine. Honestly, if you locate something, and it's oh say, two feet down... come on. NOBODY is going to dig a friggin hole 3 inches wide, 2 feet deep.... lets get serious here. and if it's 4 feet, same thing, get a clue. the hole is probably going to be about two foot across and deep down whatever you need it to be, because that is about what you need to keep the walls from constantly caving in on what you are digging and be able to get it out.....

now given that, WHY tell it only show me stuff thats (realistically 8 to maybe 12 inches deep) when you can easily be shown stuff 2 to 3 feet down, which you will find with your hole anyways?

Magic dowsing tool, show me something that is ONLY within 8 to 10 inches deep, ... if it's futher, do NOT let me know, I will not dig that deep.

Even if you are shown something a foot down, your hole is going to be fairly wide, and can easily be even wider to support deeper... why cut off your 'feed' for lack of a better word... at a foot, when you can easily locate close enough.. something a few feet down, that the MD wont detect but you sure as hell will when you startdigging the hole... who cares if you are 4 inches off, if the hole is a foot and a half wide, guess what... you got it....

Aaron

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Teleprospector, you "ask" the rods a question? Sounds like a Ouiji board to me. If that's not supernatural/paranormal, I don't know what more proof y'all need. Or do you beg to differ with Telepropector?

 

[BF750]

Hey Ascholten... Has it occurred to you that maybe he doesn't want to dig a hole that wide or deep, just a thought.

Tom.... you claim to have read about dowsing, but, by your response you have not read enough. All dowsers have their own way of dowsing, what Tele is doing is called discrimination. No different than adjusting the knob or button on your MD. It can be a physical disc. such as "baiting" the rod(s), or mental disc, such as asking to put limitations to ignore certain items, depths.

Tony

 

[Keppy]

Or you may ask the rods to reveal to you only a coin/ring that is within the range of your metal detector/coil combination.

What's worked for me has been to ask this question:

Will the rods please show me our yes answer when I'm standing over a coin within the detection range of my Tesoro metal detector with the 8" coil?
Then start walking your grid with the words "metal detectable coin" in your minds eye while keeping your eyes on the tips of the rods.

You may choose to be more specific about the material type of the coin you seek by substituting "coin" for "silver coin", "nickel coin", "gold ring" ect.
Give it a try and see what works for you here!
Jon

Yes i like that idea never tried it but will give it a try next time out........................ ==Jim==

 

[teleprospector]

I understand what you're saying, what I'm saying is that my detector could not pick up what the rods were telling me was there.When I started dowsing in parks and schoolyards (I used a Whites classic then) the RODS went way deeper on a coin (and still do) than the detector could pick up, where they crossed or turned I'd start digging around,so I'd dig deep holes and did'nt like that for a single coin in the park or school.Back then I wanted to hear the beep of the MD where the rods would cross over, but I did'nt, I had no idea that the rods could pick up a coin deeper than the metal detector could go.
The MD registered over the coin once I had it down in the hole 4 or 5 inches then I dug another 7" more till I dug it out,then, over time, I figured maybe by asking for a coin that my MD WOULD pick up as I walked my grid with the rods that they would'nt react to a coin deeper than the MD could pick up, so what I got was shallower MD detectable coins walking the site with the rods.
Since the dowsing tools have given me depths on objects (caches) then I found no reason why they would show me a coin any deeper than the MD I was using could go, if I asked for that.
It's just a technique that has worked for me, being selective with what I want to find, it may not work for everyone else.
Jon

 

[HiiiQ]

Hey teleprospector since there are thousands of coins in a park or schoolyard how do you narrow down to a specific signal line? Could you ask for the most expensive coin within 50 yards radius and within you're MD's depth range?

 

[teleprospector]

Tom,
Why is it that when something can't be explained that people are so quick to judge, quick to anger and slow to understand and blame everything on the occult, voodoo, witchcraft, black magic or something evil?
Yes I do ask the rods questions, but I've never used a Ouiji board, their a little big and heavy to mount on the L rods and I have'nt seen a Ouiji board with a bearing handle on the bottom and an antenna sticking out the front, have you?
O, and another thing, I have'nt heard any voices talking back to me either!
Dowsing does not permit someone to do harm to anyone, if you know of someone who is attempting this, they won't be for long.
Too many good things have happend to people who use dowsing equipment for it to be linked with "evil" or wanting to do evil to someone else. If people want to use ouiji boards or practice occultism or voodoo that is their decision, who are we to judge them? I don't want that job, I thought it was someone else's job.
I happen to know of people who are ministers who practice dowsing and it has done nothing but good for them.
I beleive that there are happy, good spirits and miserable spirits that are invisible to our eyes and if you strive to do good then you will attract the good ones, I feel that the miserable spirits take the easy path towards the people on earth who want to do harm to others. I believe that dowsing works through my spirit guides that assist me in being a happy, good, productive person on earth. I believe that my spirit guide is that "superconscience" all dowsers talk about. I believe my spirit guide is the one who reveals the answers to my questions through the preestablished code movements of the instruments. Wether the spirit guide actually goes to the site I'm map dowsing and returns or is there with me and knows the information the map contains and reveals that to me through the instruments I don't know. I don't worry about it, I do my job and they do theirs. You "dowse as you think" carries more weight than you may think.
I believe the spirit guide is the "carrier wave" of my thoughts and are part of the dowse just like I am part of the dowse. I see myself as a radio transmitter/receiver and the instruments are the speakers, my brain transmits a thoughtwave that the spirit guide picks up, does it's thing and I get the returned signal through the instruments. All this happens in a fraction of a second. If I can't keep my concentration then that's where the errors occur, the signal is coming through just fine but the tuner ( my focus) is off a bit and my percentage of accuracy is off, just like you hear static on a radio when the dial is off frequency of the station you are trying to listen to.The dowser needs to be able to hold that thoughtwave and minds eye image with precision and no other distractions for at least 1 minute to complete the circuit and have an accurate and successful dowse on a map or in the field of at least 80% or higher. This accuracy depends on your map scale and above all your attitude and your quality of conscienceness.
These spirit creatures can hear our thoughts wether we are dowsing, praying, meditating, or at a rock concert. A lot of people "walk on eggshells" around this topic, and think it's something else, but not me. I feel the presence of my spirit guides around me all the time, they have been good to me even though I've done things against what they have indicated for me to do. I feel that they are my "invisible friends" and when I found out about them I wished I had learned of them earlier in life. It surely explains why certain things in the past happend and my life was taken out of danger. Listening to your inner self is the best way to avoid problems, this feeling I believe is my spirit guide nudging me along, telling me to keep moving when something arises that may affect me in a bad way.We are creatures that have freewill to do as we please. They realize this and are there to assist even after we make wrong choices.Your guides are good for you and mean no harm to you and assist you in more ways than you realize. I don't feel that by practicing dowsing or helping someone else out with a dowsing project that I'm harming anyone, including myself.
If you think that dowsing is related to the occult, witchcraft or voodoo, then pick up a rod and summon it to harnass supernatural power for your own use or to harm someone else and see what happens. So are all dowsers practicing witches to you?
I know that when I bought my rods, these instructions were not included.
I have my own bodily electricity and my own thoughtwaves that are part of what makes dowsing work, there are no objects flying around the room and I don't go into a trance and roll around on the floor chanting before the answers come through.
An evil person also has guides that want them to succeed at what they want to do, even though it's wrong.These are the miserable spirits that I referred to earlier that have an affinity towards evil people, just as the happy,good spirits do towards those who want to do good. I believe it's a persons willpower that makes or breaks them when a problem arises that needs to be overcome. Don't you ever get a hunch or have an idea now and then that pops into your head? Don't think it's all beacause of your intelligence, it's really your spirit guide helping you out with a problem. All these things I mentioned are my beliefs and no one will ever change that.
If you are interested in dowsing, first ask yourself why?
Then when you get your answer, I urge you to study it, learn your place in life with it and see for yourself what it can do for you to improve your life, not just monetarily.
Jon

 

[teleprospector]

HiiiQ,
You may ask the rods what you want, take a look at the dowsing instruction available here on the forum, these are just starting points, you may or may not find a better way for yourself. I sweep a 360 deg. circle with the rods and when I get a lockline I follow it and when I'm over the target the rods cross over each other for me.Or after I get my first lock while sweeping,I may walk 100 feet perpendicular to the lockline direction and sweep the rod again until it locks and where the lines intersect is when my object of interest is located.
Jon

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Ok, I'm understanding more now: There are different forms of dowsing: Mental (Dell, etc..), spiritual (teleprospector and Real de Tayopa, etc..), and scientific (a host of others who string together theories about signal lines, magnetics, body energies, etc...). Ok, I'll buy that. So the minute a casts doubt on one type, the dowsers jump in and say that there are other forms. So I guess I'd have to answer all 3 in one thread, everytime, to keep folk from running for cover under one of the other two types? That, or I need to learn to specify that I am only addressing a single type, in the thread I am addressing. Ok, lesson learned here!

Teleprospector, I am glad you say "I believe that dowsing works through my spirit guides that assist me in being a happy, good, productive person" That is an honest statement, that you are in no doubt siding on the supernatural side (vs natural or scientific). I wonder what those who distance themselves from dowsing having ANYTHING to do with spiritual or supernatural forces, have to say about this? I have been scolded for asserting that dowsing's power rests in this, yet here someone comes on, and boldly ascribes to this? Also,I thought this forum was (as has been repeated many times) ONLY for mental dowsing? Don't spiritual dowsing posts get deleted?

As for "what's wrong with spiritual dowsing?" I guess the answer to that is to read the 2nd of 2 links I posted on "What happened?" post. But I can already predict your answer: Whereas that author makes only the distinction of good supernatural and bad supernatural (which even you alude to "good spirits" and "bad spirits"), YOU would say that there are "good spirits" who aid you in treasure hunting, whereas the link asserts that this is not the job of God or good spirits, etc... I guess this debate can go on forever. White magic vs black magic, etc.... But at least, you're attributing dowsing to spiritual forces, which I am glad to see.

As for "judging", we are not to judge when it is hypocritical. We are called to be wise, plan, watch for error, etc... I mean, if I look at you eating an apple, and I say "you are eating an apple", am I "judging"? With your broad definition of "judging" (the wrong kind of judging), ANYONE who comes on an open forum to take issue with dowsing (heavens forbid that any voice to the contrary might have an opinion), is guilty, in your eyes of "judging". So please don't use "judging" as a way to silence someone with an honest view, question, etc.... This forum is meant for dialogue, and maybe we all have something to learn. I gladly invite comment on anything I do, however so much as it may hurt. A TRUE brother is one who says "hey guy, you're blowing it" not the brother who shys away from ever giving a word of caution to his friend.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Some people don’t seem to understand…I am told all dowsing is random chance. We dig until we find something. We go to idea spots to find that object. Our excuses include sun spots and many other things. We are told it is supernatural, occult, voodoo etc.

These are all from the skeptics…Why… Because they THINK all these accusations are somehow proof that Dowsing doesn’t work. Guess what….We can still Dowse….We know what we can do and no one is going to change our minds. I would like to know how dowsing works but it is to complicated for any of us to come up with the answer.

I am enjoy all the answers from the mental dowsers as I am very weak when I practice mental dowsing…Art

 

[teleprospector]

Tom,
I'm sorry if you were offended if you felt I was saying you were being jugdemental and I ask for your forgiveness, I don't want to meet someone on the "other side" someday whom I've had bad dealings with if we can find a common ground today and move on.
Your earlier post implied that dowsing was the same as an Ouiji board, and I defended that. I believe that dowsing is mental, spiritual and physical, it's the sequence of the exercise (operator choice/ability)that encompasses each or all the methods mentioned and wether you are using the rod as a directional locator or a dowsing rod.
I thought this was a general discussion board on dowsing and if you feel that my post does not belong here please contact Jeff and tell him.
If you do though, plz ask him to remove all the other posts here that mention the Ouiji board and occult, ect.
I'm not on the forum here trying to recruit dowsers with my beliefs on it, I hope that people will give it a try beacause they are drawn to it or are curious about it and discover for themselves what works for them. People who read my posts are going to do 1 of 3 things: 1) They will say that they are good ideas and want to try them 2) They will say I thought he was weird but now this really convinces me that he is a lunatic. 3) They will continue sitting on the fence pondering which way to go and watch the world go by. Whatever they think won't change my beliefs on dowsing. My beliefs make me happy and it's just the way I feel about it. My beliefs allow me to sleep at night. It would be wrong for me to tell you how to feel about something.
Dowsing to me is still the oldest form of wireless communication and each person has their own beliefs on it and their own way of practicing it. How can you help yourself and others if you don't believe in what you're doing? So to me and all those I know that use it, it has only brought them good things, so why say anymore?
Jon

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Teleprospector, apology accepted. Dialogue invited, w/o the "judging" catch-all thrown out. thankyou.

No, your posts belong here. No need for deletions. Glad that some pro-dowsers admit it's spiritual. That's where I want them.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Dowsing to me is still the oldest form of wireless communication and each person has their own beliefs on it and their own way of practicing it.

You got it Jon.

How can you help yourself and others if you don't believe in what you're doing?
So to me and all those I know that use it, it has only brought them good things, so why say anymore?

When I came to T-net many years ago I had only one question. How can I eliminate Micro-gold deposits. Dell was the only one that helped me. I have spent a lot of time reading and all that good stuff but have found that reading between the lines and trying others methods has made my dowsing better. The skeptics have helped me a lot by forcing me to try different things to disprove what they are saying….Art

 

[jeff of pa]

Final Warning.

Keep Religon in the Religon Thread.

Posts are now going to be deleted.

Complaints will Be Ignored & Deleted also !

 

[teleprospector]

Hi Art,
That's interesting, how did you overcome the micro gold issue?
Are there times that micro gold is the only item in your search area and you'd want to try and recover some of it?
Jon