How To Kill A Drone: Since Drones Can Kill Americans, Americans Can Kill Drones

So Reagan did now it is ok???? In that case Joe Smith got away with raping and murdering a child so John Doe is free to.

Its not the issue of what is used its the issue of using it unconstitutionally. Drones are a new weapon and just the anchor an poster child of the argument.

You completely missed my point. Did either willfully and directly provide arms to alqueda with full knowledge or did it end up in their hands indirectly. If a gun shop sells you a gun and it is stolen and used in a crime did the gun shop sell to a criminal?

And people can be killed lots of ways besides drones. I just find it funny that the "drone" has become the new "black helicopter". Go on infowars and look back a number of years and all you see is "black helicopter" - that guy might have even invented the term?? Now it's all drone this and drone that. The new government boogeyman. I wonder what they will replace FEMA camps with.
 

Well since we are still providing the Syrian rebels money and equipment despite knowing the links to a terror groups yes, and since the begining of the war in Libya started we knew that some of their leaders, and fighter where organized Al Qaeda groups and leaders yes. Selling F16s the the Muslim Brotherhood a known terrorist organization ding ding ding we have another winner.

Regan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama have all committed Unconstitutional acts, only one was impeaced over it(so far). I was just old enough under Bush Jr to begin understadning these things. Had I been old enough under all of them it would have been something I disagreed with. I do disagree with all them doing it. SO I have now idea how I am arm chair QBing I never said I agreed with it when any of the others did it. At the time Reagan did it Afghanistan was not an enemy Eisenhower supplied the Russians in WWII..... then in 1946 they all but became an enemy.. was it right was it wrong?
 

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Well since we are still providing the Syrian rebels money and equipment despite knowing the links to a terror groups yes, and since the begining of the war in Libya started we knew that some of their leaders, and fighter where organized Al Qaeda groups and leaders yes. Selling F16s the the Muslim Brotherhood a known terrorist organization ding ding ding we have another winner.

And do you believe there was-is one single group fighting in Syria and my us. Yes some groups in Syria have links and others do not. Would you rather that the current regime stay in power in Syria? Muslim brotherhood was elected by its people. They are not in power because we armed them. You know that - right.
 

And do you believe there was-is one single group fighting in Syria and my us. Yes some groups in Syria have links and others do not. Would you rather that the current regime stay in power in Syria? Muslim brotherhood was elected by its people. They are not in power because we armed them. You know that - right.

It has NOTHING to do with them being a mixed organization, elected, what they fought for, win or loose.
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Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant.
To render assistance or counsel. Any act that deliberately strengthens or tends to strengthen enemies of the United States, or that weakens or tends to weaken the power of the United States to resist and attack such enemies is characterized as aid and comfort.

Why did we have to play world police and oust Muammar Gaddafi, so I could care less if he was still the regime in Lybia. That is our WHOLE problem....why everyone hates us we have to poke our nose in every part of the world.
 

It has NOTHING to do with them being a mixed organization, elected, what they fought for, win or loose.
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Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant.
To render assistance or counsel. Any act that deliberately strengthens or tends to strengthen enemies of the United States, or that weakens or tends to weaken the power of the United States to resist and attack such enemies is characterized as aid and comfort.

Why did we have to play world police and oust Muammar Gaddafi, so I could care less if he was still the regime in Lybia. That is our WHOLE problem....why everyone hates us we have to poke our nose in every part of the world.

Mustang - I think history has proven that isolationism has also not worked time and time again. Though I agree we should not be sticking our nose in every problem. Sometimes it's best to take the battle to the enemy as oppose for waiting for them on our doorstep.

Reasoning behind becoming involved and arming factions? If a regime is going to change we would rather them be our friends or have them think we are their friends. Again one doesn't have to agree but there is method to the madness. And certainly the us makes mistakes and sometimes get played. But that going to happen sometimes.
 

So the Muslim Brother hood is better "Our goal is eliminating and destroying the Western civilization", Libya Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty will tell you how well the new militant groups running Libya like us.
 

And certainly the us makes mistakes and sometimes get played. But that going to happen sometimes.

And in this case oopps....... I left the .22 where a child could get it sorry you cant do anything to me I made a mistake. We all agreed negligence, manslaughter, something should be a charge here. It still don't make a-ok or legal.
 

A drone is no more dangerous than a hammer or a golf club right?

More people are killed in car crashes than by drones so lets make cars illegal.

Yes but can a hammer or a golf club collect intelligence on innocent americans without any way of them ever knowing?
 

I have NO problem with drones being used legally and constitutionally. But everyone from small town Police to the President have said they are, and will use them illegally and unconstitutionally.
 

So the Muslim Brother hood is better "Our goal is eliminating and destroying the Western civilization", Libya Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty will tell you how well the new militant groups running Libya like us.

We didnt put the Muslim brotherhood into power. They were elected by the Egyptian people. Egypt was not an armed conflict. I'm not sure why you think the us had anything to do with it. If you remember Mubarak was our ally for decades.
 

What does them being elected had with us selling them F16s right now? They are our enemy.

I dont believe this question is covered by the script picker reads and posts by.:laughing7:
 

And do you believe there was-is one single group fighting in Syria and my us. Yes some groups in Syria have links and others do not. Would you rather that the current regime stay in power in Syria? Muslim brotherhood was elected by its people. They are not in power because we armed them. You know that - right.

Muslim Brother hood is a sworn enemy of America. Their leaders have sworn to destroy America.

They have sworn to destroy the United States, its allies and all of their people..

Members of The Muslim Brotherhood political party are also members of terrorist organizations like al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah and many others.

Giving any aid, much less military aid to MB is treason, it is no different than America giving military aid to Japan or Germany in 1941. What would Americans have said or done if Roosevelt sent military aid to Japan after Pearl Harbor.

Obama has gone around congress and given over 1.5 Billion in military aid to the Muslim Brotherhood..

Giving said to your enemies is treason.


“Treason” in the American Dictionary/Third Edition is defined as “The betrayal of one’s country, especially by aiding an enemy.”

It may not be politically correct to some, but the fact is America is at war with Muslim groups, organizations, and countries and our President, a Muslim himself is giving aid to our enemies......

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Yes but can a hammer or a golf club collect intelligence on innocent americans without any way of them ever knowing?

Neither can a drone. It's just an inanimate object. Drones don't collect intelligence, people collect intelligence. What's the drone turning itself on and flying around on its own?? Planes can do it, helicopters, cops in cars.

Intelligence on American have been collected since about the beginning of the country. Can you say j Edgar Hoover??
 

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