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I found these back in 1989 when I was hunting near the "Miller" cornfield, in Williamsport, Maryland. I know what they are for, but can these be from CW era? Or are they much more common than that? The shot size is roughly 5/16" diameter, there is a number 120 on the inside surface of one of the handles. It would seem to me that those handles would heat up rather quickly. They were approximately 6" deep in the red dirt (clay) Thanks for looking.......NGE
 

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ivan salis said:
found in a cornfeild you say ? -- lost as they "broke camp" or ran into battle maybe ? what other items if any did you find near it?
He said quote: "I found these back in 1989 when I was hunting near the "Miller" cornfield, in Williamsport, Maryland."
Sometimes the corrosion, or lack of it, can help tell the age of a piece or it may have been found above ground, such as in a barn.
 

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by reading two of his post together --found on Springfeild farm in Williamsport , Maryland (where 600 acres were used as a "battlefeild" ) near "millers" cornfeild .
 

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Ok. 




Nice Electrolysis Job. :D
 

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This mold was NOT found in the corn field! Other Items found nearby were two 2 center's 1826 and an 1836 both only 1 foot apart and only 3 inches deep, I will re-take pictures of other things I found on this farm, I also got a sterling ring made by Kirk & Son, it is a rose ring had a finger bone in it when dug, but thought it was a root and chucked it. The farm is located 8 miles northwest of Antietam. The soil (red clay) non fertilized is very kind to finds made there. The mold was found near the front entrance to the big white house ( which in 1989, was a B&B ) I forgot which general set up cannons in front of the house, and also which side was making charges towards them from the fields in front of them, but we were told that cut horse shoes, glass, square spikes (nails), rocks and pieces of lead were loaded into the cannons and fired at waist level to stop the charges. At the time I really didn't know much about battle sites or techniques about desperate soldiers. When I hunted the farm they only had 100 acres left, the rest had been sold off for schools and churches. Other people in our group found Jeff Davis hat pin, musket butt plates, all kins of bullets, melted lead, enough iron from an exploded mortar to re- assemble it, we also re-located the lost Mortar, it was buried in the back yard under the rose garden. There was also several 3 cent silvers found, a long gun barrel. My mold was not far from the 2 center's that I dug and it was only 5 inches deep, just had a light coating of oxidation on them which I cleaned off with a brass wire brush........Through the years that the farm was in the same hands, they told us that there were battles and skirmishes from French and Indian war, war of 1812, Civil War, etc, etc. The silver ring I found was I.D.'d by a silversmith that was working in the Art Train when it passed through Plymouth Michigan back in 1989. The smith told me that the makers of the ring had been dead 125 years when I had found it.......Sorry about any confusion I may have caused by posting this shot mold........NGE P.S. I am working on the pics now, however I have since sold the 2, 2 center's, But there was about 75 people who saw me dig them up. I think I will have to post the pics in My Best Finds
 

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Just found out it was General Lee who took over the farm house and placed his cannons at the front entrance. I am going to post my pics here, as I have already posted some in my best finds awhile ago. So if they have to be moved then do so, but please wait till the people that have replied to my posts in here , get a chance to see them again.......NGE
 

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sorry not getting -- I read "found near millers corn feild "* in 1st post and " found on smithfeild farm" later on (so I thought found on smithfeild farm close to millers corn feild ) -- with the additional info you have given, I personally think / feel that its a very strong possibilty that your item is indeed CW related (but as always unless its " clearly stamped US or CSA" there will be folks who will say you can only call it "civil war era" only ) so be it .

killer finds -- clearly thats a CW area you were digging --plus you know the history of the spot --good researching --(I always say for finding lots of really good stuff, good research is often the key) :wink:
 

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Were they marking jewelry with the word "Sterling" back in the 1860s?
 

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Did anyone happen to notice how large the sprue was on those molded wax balls? That is a huge sprue for a bullet, looks almost a third the size of the ball itself. Go figure.? Monty
 

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S. Kirk & Son. http://www.925-1000.com/Kirk_Date_Code.html The hallmark seems to match CW period but I guess knowing when they started using the "Sterling" stamp would be important for proper ID. Very unusual ring.
 

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The term Sterling itself goes back to the dark ages.11th and 12th century.It was definately in use prior to the civil war in as far as items being stamped STERLING,when it first appeared in the US is a good question though.
 

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