Hoping to find some GW experts

[Dug Life Metal Detecting]

We dug this piece today in Central Ky... Ive never seen anything like it before...any thoughts or ideas...

 

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[ANTIQUARIAN]

What an amazingly historical shoe buckle find DLMD, so unfortunate that it's not complete.
It's still a very displayable relic with a great story to tell!

Dave

 

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[pganjon]

Awesome and that Patina is Beautiful! Paul

 

[trdking]

I don't think it has any reference to Patent or pattent The first patents did not happen till mid 1800s Wonderful piece. Do not shine it up leave it as is. You will kill the value. I would do a little toothpick work on the back lettering to see if you can get the full makers mark for research.

 

[Worm-Slicer]

I agree with trdking and don't think it's patent, but a maker's name, as I don't think patents were placed on things like that during that time period. In my opinion, best thing I've saw found posted on any of the online detecting forums this year. Nothing even close to it in historical significance and a shame it doesn't have more exposure on here.

 

[cw0909]

No... this was found In central Ky... According to all the history Ibe read... Washington never made it to Ky before he died...but did purchase some 5000 acres in what is now Grayson county

it could have been made anywhere, i was thinking prob local, research wealthy landowners
in the area you found it, prob not a poor mans item. search shoemakers too.

 

[Dug Life Metal Detecting]

 

[Retired Sarge]

Well if PATT is seen, maybe the name is Patterson.

 

[cw0909]

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

I would agree makers name as well! I love this piece and I would have Roland Frodigh restore it if it were mine. Fantastic find Rob!

 

[civilman1]

I'm no GW expert by any means. I say find that missing piece,might have your answer on it.

 

[Dug Life Metal Detecting]

This might answer some questions.... obviously there is more to the story... but youll get the point

 

[trdking]

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This might answer some questions.... obviously there is more to the story... but youll get the point

By Jove, this could be it. Excellent pull. The Patt has just the right amount of smudges after it for this to fit. Pattison The faint E is an I?

 

[cw0909]

the other day i forgot to say i was trying to enhance dug life buckle
the post
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/613639-hoping-find-some-gw-experts-2.html#post6269964

here is another enhance of the buckle

 

[cw0909]

i thought if the buckle did belong to Washington, there maybe a receipt
or an order in his papers, maybe the Pattison name is there.
reading around there were a lot of metal smiths and shoemakers in va.
that type of buckle was popular from late 1770s- early 1790s

Series 5, Financial Papers, 1750-1796
https://www.loc.gov/collections/geo...essays/series-notes/series-5-financial-papers

 

[Dug Life Metal Detecting]

i thought if the buckle did belong to Washington, there maybe a receipt
or an order in his papers, maybe the Pattison name is there.
reading around there were a lot of metal smiths and shoemakers in va.
that type of buckle was popular from late 1770s- early 1790s

Series 5, Financial Papers, 1750-1796
https://www.loc.gov/collections/geo...essays/series-notes/series-5-financial-papers[/QUOTE
Pattison was from Berlin Conn....and made supplies for Washingtons army..... it may have been made as a tribute piece... Im sure there is no paper trail as if it was made for GW it would have probably been a gift

 

[DCMatt]

I agree it is likely a maker's mark but, for the record, PATTENS were a thing in the 18th C.

They were more or less stilts or thick soles attached to your shoes to keep them out of the mud in the streets or, as pictured below, off the wet floor.

 

[trdking]

I agree it is likely a maker's mark but, for the record, PATTENS were a thing in the 18th C.

They were more or less stilts or thick soles attached to your shoes to keep them out of the mud in the streets or, as pictured below, off the wet floor.

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Looks like a broken ankle, waiting to happen

 

[Retired Sarge]

Looks like a broken ankle, waiting to happen

Pre OSHA that's for sure............