History Channel - Oak Island mini series January 5, 2014

[TailGunner]

My thoughts on Bore Hole 10X:
1. Why wasn't the shaft surveyed before the dive? Debris has been falling into it since the 70's. The bottom has to be littered with rocks, bones & corrosion.
2. The dye test did not work. Did anybody ever ask why?
3. Does the water level in the hole change with the tide? Is there even a path to the ocean now? The flood tunnels may have collapsed or otherwise destroyed over the years. I recall mention of dynamiting the beach to destroy the tunnels.
4. Can the hole be pumped dry? What fills it? Seawater? Ground water? Does it come up from the bottom of the bore?
5. Can the sonar survey show side tunnels beyond the steel casing and concrete?
6. Has anybody considered using a robotic camera to explore the 8' or 27" portion of the hole before sending down living breathing assets? Can a camera be used in the 4" hole the brothers drilled earlier?
7. That cage used in 10X is a square (rectangular) peg in a round bore hole. Many of the problems encountered while lowering the divers could have been avoided if they had a round basket with a door. At the very least the divers should have practiced entrance and egress from the basket before the dive.

Some of this rambling is Monday morning quarterbacking and some is common sense. Was a confined space safety specialist consulted? I did not see any gas meters checking for methane, Hydrogen Sulfide or Cyanide gas.

This is why my wife will not watch TV or movies with me anymore. IMHO the island should be viewed as a problem to be solved. Take the drama and hocus pocus out of the mix. Think like an engineer don't dream like a treasure hunter.

I wish only luck and good hunting to the brothers and the rest of the team.

TailGunner

 

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[redbull]

Strip mine the whole damn thing. Run pumps to keep the water out and just dig a giant hole.

 

[tim185]

Strip mine the whole damn thing. Run pumps to keep the water out and just dig a giant hole.

That's been my thought the entire time. If it was me, I'd treat it like taking a sledge hammer to kill a fly. But that doesn't make good TV, now does it?

 

[Ocean7]

I've been recently watching this, seen most episodes now and it just gets stranger and stranger.
Some humorous moments from my viewpoint:
The guy MD'ing on beach finds some colonial coppers and they comment, 'oh the English must have been here.'
My response: "I've found coins older that this in PA! The colonists in the 13 colonies used this as money!"

The MD'ing signals found and then lost in swamp.
My response: "When dealing with water or water saturated ground, you can and will get false signals!
Where did they go? They were bogus signals!"

They drill into cement like substance, horizontal placed wood, and then vertical placed wood. Someone who drilled
before described drilling cement like substance, horizontal placed wood for 7" and then 7 feet to next wood sample.
They assumed it was a treasure vault. They claimed gold flecks on drill bit - I think they made that up to get
investors interest. Sounds somewhat fishy to me.
Gee this sounds a lot like a mine shaft with a wooden floor and not necessarily a vault of any kind.

The most interesting story regarding that island for me is that it is full of Fool's Gold. Some explorer
mined tons of Fool's gold from Nova Scotia and took back to Europe - only to find out that it was not real gold.
If he was mining for gold on Oak Island, as some believe - that would explain the underground carverns supposedly on
this island. That would explain why anyone would go to that extreme, digging deep holes in the island - they were struck
by the 'gold bug' and thought they were mining gold. When they discovered it was pyrite - they abandoned their back-breaking quest.

Perhaps local pirates discovered these underground caverns and did cache some treasure chests on this island.

At some point, one or all of these caverns got filled with water. Was it booby-trapped as they seem to think?
It is quite possible the answer is "NO". With all the drilling and digging that has gone on - they could have
unknowningly created a booby-trap for themselves by creating holes that allowed water to enter the caverns from
the ocean, or the swamp, or an underground water supply. Would pirates just simply place chests of gold at the deepest
cavern point on island, and not try to hide that location? Doubtful but would they go to all the trouble involved
of digging a channel of water from the ocean to where the Money Pit is located and at the depth indicated?
I sincerely cannot believe that at all - they were pirates not stone masons.

So it is my theory that the island has been used for multiple purposes by multiple groups. First, someone mined it
for gold and abandoned project. Then others discovered the caverns and decided a perfect place to store trove.
Who is to say it wasn't all recovered? No one has proved that either way.

The TH'ing dreamer in me hopes that the two brothers spending all this money find something of value to offset
what they have invested. But it's looking more and more like it is possible that all the theories about the Templar
Knights, The Holy Grail, The Ark of the Covanant, Solomon's Tree of Life, the Phoenicians etc. - are amazing stories
but have no foundation in them whatsoever. My best guess - pirates treasure was cached after someone else worked
the island for fool's gold. I do hope they find the motherload and before Dan passes on. I wish H2 network would stop
promoting 'seven people must die' before the treasure is found. Who pray tell made that up? Come on - Dan is in his 90's
and could pass at anytime, thereby fulfilling that silly alleged curse. He more than anyone, deserves to see some trove
after 50 freakin' years! I really, really hope he does!

That's my two cents. The 10X pit goes down 235 feet to the present chamber area the team is working. 235 feet! It's
a long way to finding anything in a water filled hole possibly fed by the ocean. Time will tell.

 

[FinderKeeper]

OK so now we know there was no Spear and no 115 artifacts given to the museum. So what did they find , some coins, a tree stump and now a tunnel from past digs. If they had stayed in the swamp they would have more to show. Now we wait

 

[SpeedeeAu]

OK so now we know there was no Spear and no 115 artifacts given to the museum. So what did they find , some coins, a tree stump and now a tunnel from past digs. If they had stayed in the swamp they would have more to show. Now we wait

Not a tunnel from past hunters because no one has been that far down since the pit was found

 

[CrackATL]

So frustrating. I hope to god next season is better. The divers go down the shaft side by side with 4 feet of muck at the bottom to find what? Oh but wait, remember the shaft that goes straight to the chamber where we are sending the divers? Lets put a sonar in it and take pictures of the chamber. Brilliant!

I hope they solve the mystery of that leather thing JH Pulitzer wears. Is it a man bra, cell phone case, extra Twinkies, flares...?

 

[lisfisher]

Didn't the British once occupy this island with a full scale mining operation?? { coal or gold was it??} If this is the case, that would explain holes, shafts and tunnels, as well as objects left on the bottom of them. I do like the show, but the most annoying thing of all is 45 minutes of commercials and 15 minutes of programming.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

The real treasure of Oak Island is the millions they're getting from the History Channel to film this boring hunt! Two years and all they're found is one coin? I've found THREE Spanish coins from the 1700's in my town this past year. Maybe I should call the History Channel and have them come here and film "The Curse of Rhode Island"!

 

[FreeBirdTim]

So frustrating. I hope to god next season is better. The divers go down the shaft side by side with 4 feet of muck at the bottom to find what? Oh but wait, remember the shaft that goes straight to the chamber where we are sending the divers?

Two divers, two ropes, two video cables and so on. You knew that wasn't going to work! Send one diver with a rope and see if he can touch bottom. Geez!

 

[redbull]

I still say strip mine the island. Probably cheaper then drilling, there hasn't every been a fauna or flora discovery on the island so no bio significance. Strip it and pump the water 24/7 back to the outside. If after 250 ft of not finding **** in a giant strip square give up. That simple

 

[redbull]

On a side note has a specialist ever been put to find the water table limit and soil density/makeup.
Reason I ask is 200 yrs ago it's doubtful a group would dig a 250+ft hole if they break the table at 50 ft etc.

 

[jeff of pa]

add big yawn here for last night show

sonar image
nothing could be seen at the bottom of the hole till they drew cartoon images of a box & pole etc.
on the image.

as soon as they started the show with that I knew how the season would end,
and that they would repeat that part over & over & over

I still see no proof anyone would/could dig a hole 250+ft deep then dig tunnels to the ocean in a reasonable amount of time,
to bury a box
the whole scenario defies logic to me.
(when faced with Hiding something, You want to be in and out, with no fanfare)




one thing did come to mind,
looking at their little cartoon rendition of what they imagine seeing at the bottom of their hole.
if there is anything other then scrap from a mine or past searches 250ft down,
it's related to a lost city like Atlantis,
which would be an awesome find, but pure luck.


they are going to start digging next season
first off by next season the archie they add will see that goes at such a snails pace,
they may mention starting to dig every show the next 3 seasons. if it lasts that long.
I really doubt they will ever dig.
all it will do is disprove there is a treasure worth the costs in that hole.

 

[etex]

Are you Okay? Are you Okay?

 

[jeff of pa]

Are you Okay? Are you Okay?

haHaHaHa yea.

I still wonder if they were even in the hole yet during that sound bite

They couldn't have possible believed they could dive the 250 feet.
They couldn't dive in the wide area comfortably.

when they said a second dive, I knew that was going to get called off.
If they hadn't they would have been tempting fate.

Curse ? was there ever even a 7 must die legend/curse before the show ?
or did the producers add that so they could call the show Curse of Oak Island ?

I can't wait for next season
What is wrong with me

 

[etex]

7 did die, 7 million brain cells from watching this

 

[Juggler]

Why did it take so long to put the scanning sonar down the 6" hole they made last year? If that data is correct then IMO there is a man made cavern down there.

Watching Dan Blankenship's face as he viewed the sonar data was priceless, now start digging.

 

[Snipes]

I think I will have to be done with this show and unfortunately this whole 'legend' to me is a wrap. This show, to me, is one of the worst 'reality' I've seen in modern era. And yet we watch it because we want a good treasure hunt show as badly as we want to find treasure. They mislead beyond what is acceptable in todays tv (an thats alot) and they turn 2 hours of programming into 2 seasons and counting . I wish them the best but honestly the best part of this whole thing to me now days is this thread...

 

[etex]

The best line was at the end when they were all hugging and the old guy said we need some women, I dont like hugging men

 

[n2mini]

Poor guy has months and months of waiting to do till the guys come back so he has something to do for a few weeks...