Help with an Oval US Horse Buckle

[BioProfessor]

I'm helping a friend ID this buckle. It looks to me to be old but not period for the Civil War. Mexican War?? It also looks to be horse tack rather than part of what a soldier would wear. It is solid brass - measures 3 1/4" wide and 2 1/8" tall.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Daryl

 

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[duggap]

You definitely want to go with repo on this one. I think the only known solid cast US plate was associated with Ohio troops and is found in the western theater of the war. The attachment hooks kind of give it away.

 

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[BioProfessor]

For soldiers, I agree but for horse tack, there were more.

Daryl

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Well, let's see:
1) We know it is not an authentic Civil War period anything
2) It is too crudely cast to be of military issue or use .. this is a very poor casting!
3) the prongs on the back are not consistent with, nor do they lend themselves to, any type of attachment or locking device, and there would be absolutely no application in the harness/horse tack arena.
4) about the only application that I can see for those prongs would be to either secure it into something like cement, or as legs to set it onto something like a table or desk.

So do you pick rare or rotten?

LoL .. I suppose it cold fall in either the rarely rotten .. or rottingly rare .. category. I think I may have found a photo of one like it being held by it's producer??

LOL! I've met a couple of these CW relic guys that look just like the photo!

 

[creskol]

Well, let's see:
1) We know it is not an authentic Civil War period anything
2) It is too crudely cast to be of military issue or use .. this is a very poor casting!
3) the prongs on the back are not consistent with, nor do they lend themselves to, any type of attachment or locking device, and there would be absolutely no application in the harness/horse tack arena.
4) about the only application that I can see for those prongs would be to either secure it into something like cement, or as legs to set it onto something like a table or desk.

So do you pick rare or rotten?

LoL .. I suppose it cold fall in either the rarely rotten .. or rottingly rare .. category. I think I may have found a photo of one like it being held by it's producer??

LOL! I've met a couple of these CW relic guys that look just like the photo!

Ain't that the truth .. Check this one out for the fun of it .. Drives the nail right on home!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120531610713&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

 

[Iron Patch]

Well, let's see:
1) We know it is not an authentic Civil War period anything
2) It is too crudely cast to be of military issue or use .. this is a very poor casting!
3) the prongs on the back are not consistent with, nor do they lend themselves to, any type of attachment or locking device, and there would be absolutely no application in the harness/horse tack arena.
4) about the only application that I can see for those prongs would be to either secure it into something like cement, or as legs to set it onto something like a table or desk.

So do you pick rare or rotten?

LoL .. I suppose it cold fall in either the rarely rotten .. or rottingly rare .. category. I think I may have found a photo of one like it being held by it's producer??

LOL! I've met a couple of these CW relic guys that look just like the photo!

Ain't that the truth .. Check this one out for the fun of it .. Drives the nail right on home!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120531610713&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Seeing the Ebay buyer protection at the bottom just seals the joke!