Help identifying ?!?

[NickL78]

I have no clue what I dug up today. This thing is heavy! Brass, copper ? It has letters on the bottom but I just can’t make them out! The last four are FNES or FNFS. It has a hole punched in the top and it also appears to be a casting. I’ve searched all day but came up with nothing.

 

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[fyrffytr1]

Is the size reference piece in the second picture a penny? The first thing that came to my mind, considering your location, was a Mardi Gras coin or token.

 

[NickL78]

Yes. Gotta love zinc pennies

 

[NickL78]

That’s possible. It’s certainly not something that would be thrown from a float. I think most Mardi Gras commemorative pieces or collectibles would have the year and maybe the parade/crew on them. Thanks for the help!

 

[Digger RJ]

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Goodyguy]

Ancient Greek or Roman coin ?

 

[nkellam22]

It looks like an imitation of an ancient Roman or Greek coin. Not real.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

This strikes me as being a replica of a Greek coin, it also looks to be made of cast brass as opposed to bronze.
I tried to clean up the pic of the front, but with little success.

Where did you find it... in a city park, on a beach or near a water source?

Dave

 

[NickL78]

Thanks ! I found it in Biloxi,ms. It was in a lot where some homes stood before Katrina took them. About a qtr. mile from the beach. You did a nice job cleaning up that pic. Thanks for the help.

 

[Red-Coat]

I’ll bet that looked impressive when first struck.

The obverse portrait is taken from one of the best known and finest examples of bronze statues from ancient Greece: the “Charioteer of Delphi”, also known as "Heniokhos". Here is the head of that statue:



It originally stood at Delphi to commemorate the victory of the tyrant Polyzalus of Gela’s chariot in the Pythian Games of Sicily in 470 BC and is now in the Delphi Archaeological Museum.

As an image, it has been frequently and variously used as a symbol of fine artistry, a decorative allusion to culture and as a symbol of achievement in sport and other activities. Here he is on a modern French artistic commemorative medal, and an ornate souvenir paper-clip, circa 1940s… so you can see how widely the portrait was used.



I don’t know what your particular medal might be, but the reverse image will be the key to that. It doesn’t appear to be a chariot but might be a games arena/stadium or something similar. I would think it probably a sporting award or some kind of recognition for artistic achievement.

 

[Noah_D]

I’ll bet that looked impressive when first struck.

The obverse portrait is taken from one of the best known and finest examples of bronze statues from ancient Greece: the “Charioteer of Delphi”, also known as "Heniokhos". Here is the head of that statue:

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It originally stood at Delphi to commemorate the victory of the tyrant Polyzalus of Gela’s chariot in the Pythian Games of Sicily in 470 BC and is now in the Delphi Archaeological Museum.

As an image, it has been frequently and variously used as a symbol of fine artistry, a decorative allusion to culture and as a symbol of achievement in sport and other activities. Here he is on a modern French artistic commemorative medal, and an ornate souvenir paper-clip, circa 1940s… so you can see how widely the portrait was used.

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I don’t know what your particular medal might be, but the reverse image will be the key to that. It doesn’t appear to be a chariot but might be a games arena/stadium or something similar. I would think it probably a sporting award or some kind of recognition for artistic achievement.

Wow Red-Coat! Impressive ID!

Now you've just got to tell us... how does one become an expert in LITERALLY EVERYTHING? I see your posts on a few of the forums I follow, always very informed and detailed, talking about bottles, coins, ancient relics, pretty much anything that comes out of the ground... just, how?

 

[Red-Coat]

Wow Red-Coat! Impressive ID!

Now you've just got to tell us... how does one become an expert in LITERALLY EVERYTHING? I see your posts on a few of the forums I follow, always very informed and detailed, talking about bottles, coins, ancient relics, pretty much anything that comes out of the ground... just, how?

Thanks, but your impression has been distorted by the fact that I 'cherry-pick' and only comment on posts where I have something to add that I think might help. You won't see me commenting much on Civil War stuff, farm machinery or a whole host of other things. I guess you know what you know, but one of the secrets is also in knowing where to look to find out. Apart from knowledge based on things that I collect, I also spent some time way back working for an auction house selling largely house clearance material. 'Dead people's things for sale' as some put it. My job was to sift the junk for things that would fetch a better price as individual items rather than being sold as job-lots in tea chests. Amazing how much you learn about antiques and curiosities doing that.

 

[ARC]

I thought it was this guy... :P

 

[MetalArchSC]

That guy ... looks a lot older this year.

 

[NickL78]

Yep, I’m sure of it... it’s definitely Lionel Richie !

Red Coat, thank you very much for the insight as well as the research you put into this. Great job and thank you. One thing you said was “I bet that looked impressive when it was first struck”. I wonder if it was struck or casted to appear much older , and I do believe this may be a casting. Note some bubbling effect which Is common in casted material. I really do appreciate the help! I’m going to dig around a little more to see what I can come up with as far as the age.

 

[Noah_D]

Thanks, but your impression has been distorted by the fact that I 'cherry-pick' and only comment on posts where I have something to add that I think might help. You won't see me commenting much on Civil War stuff, farm machinery or a whole host of other things. I guess you know what you know, but one of the secrets is also in knowing where to look to find out. Apart from knowledge based on things that I collect, I also spent some time way back working for an auction house selling largely house clearance material. 'Dead people's things for sale' as some put it. My job was to sift the junk for things that would fetch a better price as individual items rather than being sold as job-lots in tea chests. Amazing how much you learn about antiques and curiosities doing that.

I thought of that after I posted but still... 550 very helpful and reliable posts since dec 19 deserves a bit of a shoutout.

 

[Red-Coat]

I thought of that after I posted but still... 550 very helpful and reliable posts since dec 19 deserves a bit of a shoutout.

Thank you!

 

[ARC]

Thanks, but your impression has been distorted by the fact that I 'cherry-pick' and only comment on posts where I have something to add that I think might help. You won't see me commenting much on Civil War stuff, farm machinery or a whole host of other things. I guess you know what you know, but one of the secrets is also in knowing where to look to find out. Apart from knowledge based on things that I collect, I also spent some time way back working for an auction house selling largely house clearance material. 'Dead people's things for sale' as some put it. My job was to sift the junk for things that would fetch a better price as individual items rather than being sold as job-lots in tea chests. Amazing how much you learn about antiques and curiosities doing that.

I also do this.

And depending on mood... or what I am engaged in.

 

[ARC]

I thought of that after I posted but still... 550 very helpful and reliable posts since dec 19 deserves a bit of a shoutout.

Yeah... ole Red Coat is "fitting in" nicely I think.

 

[ARC]

Oh... I also don't comment / post on a hwat is it... IF others are "handling it" so to speak.

Or if IMO it was or is on its way to being solved.

I also do not respond / post on threads started by those who have not "reciprocated" likes... friendships... etc on Tnet as a whole.

I just skip em most of the time.

AND IF I do stop in... and know what it is... I keep going :P